DeeJunFan Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Hi guys What are the thoughts on inset shelves in the shower area. When I went to a bathroom design place they were telling me to put stud walls in all the bathrooms for this very reason and I'm starting to build the studs now. Doing it DIY with my father and he thinks they are a terrible idea. That I will get a lot of water leakage with them. Anyone any thoughts? Do they need to be a certain distance from shower head or is there a good enough tanking system that I could use? Damian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 (edited) You mean like this? Yep, I'll be doing it in spades! Probably two vertical ones either side of the shower corner which itself will be mitred. The alcoves will be LED back lit of course. This is the corner: Already part studded out then @Nickfromwales posted a pic of one of his installs with a nice mitred corner! Edited February 12, 2017 by Onoff I'm drinking Honeydew! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan52 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 I have two in my main shower but mine are block. You have to clean the water out after a shower as it pools under the shampoo bottles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 18 minutes ago, Declan52 said: I have two in my main shower but mine are block. You have to clean the water out after a shower as it pools under the shampoo bottles. Very nice that! I did wonder about that issue. First thought was to run the UFH up the wall and under the shelves. I didn't do that. I was half considering having the shelf on an angle so the water sheds of it's own accord and a level st/st mesh or basket or rods for the bottles to sit on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan52 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Most of the water runs of mine but depending on how many empty/near empty bottles are there it can still collect a fair amount of water. The rods might be a good solution. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 I decided to make this one a bit higher so it missed the direct flow of water. All the tiles and trims were set into clear CT1 and pushed n until it oozed out of the grout lines / gaps etc. I wiped that excess off with wipes, making sure none was left flush with the surface of the tiles / trims, and left it to cure. I then gunned a colour matched silicone onto the remaining gaps. You could lay that on its back, fill it with water and it wouldnt lose a drop. . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeJunFan Posted February 12, 2017 Author Share Posted February 12, 2017 So we are looking to have 2 insets similar to yours decky that will be about 500mm apart with shower head central above. Should we move them? We were also hoping to have one directly below the shower. We had this flash of genius around 1am one night and now the stud is built. This is the shower and larger one above the bath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan52 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Have you measured up the shower unit you want to make sure there is room for all the pipes. Mine just about fitted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 (edited) Not that keen on inset shelves. Extra complication and my 80 year old mum would not be able to reach. We have a floorstanding unit like this that stands in a corner of the shower, about 90cm high. I quite like the glass cleaner mount, though I would probably have a suction book to the glass. Ferdinand Edited February 12, 2017 by Ferdinand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crofter Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Sounds like a nightmare to keep clean... I'm a bit paranoid about that aspect of things, how bad is it in real life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan52 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 It takes longer to squidgy the glass screen. Have to do this each time or it gets covered in water marks which is really bad looking. Now I just lift the bottles up and one swipe and it's sorted. All in maybe a 20 sec job so not much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney12 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 We had a recessed shelf in the shower in our last place. The base was angled by 5 degrees to stop water pooling, you couldn't notice it. It didn't really get dirty but then my wife is a cleanaholic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Crofter said: Sounds like a nightmare to keep clean... I'm a bit paranoid about that aspect of things, how bad is it in real life? That for me? We have few problems. Edited February 12, 2017 by Ferdinand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeJunFan Posted February 12, 2017 Author Share Posted February 12, 2017 Thanks guys, I was hoping it was something simple enough to work around. Would anyone recommend the Aquaseal type products? Tanking paint for the wetrooms? Seems like something pretty simple to do at only around £20 for 5 litres, shouldn't be all that expensive to get a shower cubicle covered up. They also do a tape for corners that i could put around the insets. Then could go the CT1 approach @Nickfromwales talked about? SWMBO has her heart set on having the insets and i quite like the look of them. haven't measured the shower units as yet @Declan52 We are going to have the actual shower valve on the block wall. If you zoom in you can see the tracking. And then just pipe the mixed water to the shower head on the stud. So hoping we will be alright. Cheers Damian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 I was thinking the very same. Form the alcoves then tank AND tape. LIGHTS! You're forgetting lights! Just think how peed off she'll be when she finds she could have had them but you forgot to mention it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 17 hours ago, Onoff said: Very nice that! I did wonder about that issue. First thought was to run the UFH up the wall and under the shelves. I didn't do that. I was half considering having the shelf on an angle so the water sheds of it's own accord and a level st/st mesh or basket or rods for the bottles to sit on. Rods and baskets etc give hard to clean gaps and crannies. Black crap soon starts to hide in there . I'd just have the tile so it's one wipe clean and job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan52 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 2 hours ago, DeeJunFan said: Thanks guys, I was hoping it was something simple enough to work around. Would anyone recommend the Aquaseal type products? Tanking paint for the wetrooms? Seems like something pretty simple to do at only around £20 for 5 litres, shouldn't be all that expensive to get a shower cubicle covered up. They also do a tape for corners that i could put around the insets. Then could go the CT1 approach @Nickfromwales talked about? SWMBO has her heart set on having the insets and i quite like the look of them. haven't measured the shower units as yet @Declan52 We are going to have the actual shower valve on the block wall. If you zoom in you can see the tracking. And then just pipe the mixed water to the shower head on the stud. So hoping we will be alright. Cheers Damian My shower valve wouldn't have fitted on a single skin block wall without it poking into the wardrobe behind that wall so just check before you set all in stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeJunFan Posted February 12, 2017 Author Share Posted February 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Declan52 said: My shower valve wouldn't have fitted on a single skin block wall without it poking into the wardrobe behind that wall so just check before you set all in stone. I was going by the plumber. So hopefully he can sort it out. Would be a balls of the valves were that big. I'll have to shop around. Yeah tank and tape was my thinking. I'll be sure to mention the lights. She will love that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Tanking and taping is a good fail safe, but then your discussing dealing with what happens to water that gets behind the tiles, rather than how to stop it GETTING behind the tiles. . When you tile around timber structures, such as these boxing ins, the grout cannot be relied upon as the final watertight seal. You must use a flexible sealant of some sort, even if it's just directly behind the tiles at the open edges / grout junctions, to prevent water getting behind the tiles. Capillary action will suck water in like a straw. When tanking, also consider the path that this trapped water will take. It cannot be allowed to get behind the plasterboard, it cannot get to any timber. Make sure you tank from head height all the way to the junction between the wall and floor. Then you need to make sure that any water that gets there, cannot sit there. Check out this thread about the wetroom in that pic as I go into great detail there. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Can't say I'll be happy to lose my storage corner: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 @Onoff is there a foam gun cleaner shortage we don't know about..?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 No wonder his bathrooms taking so long, he's bloody high off the fumes ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 There's only 3 cans of foam cleaner, the other two are spray adhesive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan52 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Bet there all out of date they have been sitting there that long!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeJunFan Posted February 13, 2017 Author Share Posted February 13, 2017 So it wont really matter how far away from the shower they are. If they get water in them at all they will need to be fully water proofed. Guy in the bathroom place was trying to advise us to go with Mosaics in the insets but i guess that would be the worst thing to do given the extra grout area. So tank, and large tile into bed of CT1 to fill all the gaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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