Cadet982 Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 Hi - I'm looking for advice on render specifications. We have plans for building a largely rendered house; brick plinth with brick chimney - bit like the Border Oak type house. The house will be a traditional block masonry cavity wall construction. However, driving around the country I see some relatively new builds on which the render has 'bled' - it looks like the pigment has started to leach. One of the criteria for our build was low/nil maintenance and I thought a render was going to achieve that. I see that some renders need repainting after 'x' years. Our proposed house is in Mid Wales and the plot is around 900 feet above sea level - we see a lot of weather here ?. I'm keen that any render we use has longevity and requires little if no maintenance. The other alternative is that we scrap the render elements and go for brick external skin all over. Any thoughts/advice or pointer where I go to get some advice? Thanks in advance.
nod Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 I run a render business K rend produce a variety of colours and finishes Most are virtually 0 maintenance If you use a reputable contractor By that I mean a contractor that has jobs local to you That is happy to show you round Not the guy that has skimmed your house and does a bit of render every now and then
Russell griffiths Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 If you want zero maintenance I would just go brick or stone.
LA3222 Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 The render bloke I went with used Johnstones stormshield - said he used to use K Rend but Johnstones is better ?♂️ Much of a muchness really, ask ten different people and you'll probably get ten different answers. KRend seems to be the 'known' brand associated with render. I had the Johnstones rep on site via the renderer but he then told me that the renderers work is good and johnstones warranty it once done - whether that means anything in practical terms I dunno. My house likewise pinches the 'look' of borderoak to a certain extent - my borderoak porches actually turn up next Friday ?
nod Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 I’ve never come across Johnston K are the market leader by far I’ve used K on a weekly basis for over 20 years Cem rend before that The thing most like is batch matches are good There are loads of renders that guarantee no cracking Like most guarantees the onus is on the installer So pick a good one that will quickly sort out any minor problems We Give a five year no argument Guarantee
dpmiller Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 Never heard of Johnstone's @nod ? https://www.johnstonestrade.com/specifiers/render
nod Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 1 hour ago, dpmiller said: Never heard of Johnstone's @nod ? https://www.johnstonestrade.com/specifiers/render 1 hour ago, dpmiller said: Never heard of Johnstone's @nod ? https://www.johnstonestrade.com/specifiers/render Did I really say I’ve never heard of Johnson’s ?
nod Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 I think the price would dictate why I’m never asked to price site work at double what I pay for K
Redoctober Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 6 hours ago, LA3222 said: My house likewise pinches the 'look' of borderoak to a certain extent - my borderoak porches actually turn up next Friday ? Exciting ! We "pinched" Border Oaks design too and made it our own. Our porch was made by a local Oak frame yard and they managed to match the price for us. Good luck and hopefully once up, you can post a picture.
Cadet982 Posted August 1, 2020 Author Posted August 1, 2020 Thanks for comments. We started off with a design that had the look and palette of modern building - render, blue engineering brick and graphite window frames. However, as time marches on we've softened the look somewhat. I think we might end up with brick outer skin as it offer longevity, zero maintenance and a look that will fit nicely into the rural area in which we live. Also, any outbuildings an garden structures will be easier to blend in.
Micharlblueboy Posted August 4, 2020 Posted August 4, 2020 I did plastering many years ago and found one of the best renders to be was rough cast. You see it quite often on old farms and its a very strong maintenance free render. Back then you would apply a scratch coat, a top coat and then the rough cast coat. This consisted of sand, cement, stone. Its really hardwearing and the plasterer i worked with swore by it. Its a messy job. Google it and see what you think
Cadet982 Posted August 4, 2020 Author Posted August 4, 2020 15 hours ago, Micharlblueboy said: I did plastering many years ago and found one of the best renders to be was rough cast. You see it quite often on old farms and its a very strong maintenance free render. Back then you would apply a scratch coat, a top coat and then the rough cast coat. This consisted of sand, cement, stone. Its really hardwearing and the plasterer i worked with swore by it. Its a messy job. Google it and see what you think Thanks for the message. Cheers.
Vpip2high Posted August 9, 2022 Posted August 9, 2022 Where you see staining and runs on lots of many new renders it can be caused by water running off timbers/flashings and onto the render. I live and render for a living in the Highlands and would recommend roughcast/wetdash hard to apply but when done right is very durable.
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