Hi all

[RDodds89]

Hey guys & girls, had a read through a few posts today so thought I’d join to try and gain as much information and experience I can. 

 

Ive been looking at building my own house for years now & ive finally found a plot of land to go ahead with.  It’s 3 acres, which I’m intending on selling some on or possibly building a house to sell on.   The home I want to build for myself,  I’m looking to do it within a budget, I’m doing this more for the land than the quality of house if that makes sense.  

 

The idea ive had in my head is to build a timber lodge, 16m long & 9m wide, single story, apex roof.  4 bedroom, 1 bath with a semi open kitchen/diner/living area.   I thought timber frame with cedar cladding, if it wasn’t too expensive, with air source heating, again if it was worth it in the long run.   

 

Well, hope this gets me a start on here & if I need to give some more info, feel free to ask.  

 

Thanks. 

[Temp]

Welcome to the forum. A 3 acre plot with planning permission would be a king's ransom in many parts.

[Ferdinand]

Welcome.

[RDodds89]

7 hours ago, Temp said:

Welcome to the forum. A 3 acre plot with planning permission would be a king's ransom in many parts.

It doesn’t have PP at the moment, but it had it 12 years ago for 4 houses, so I’m hoping it’ll get it again.   There’s old buildings, water and power so it’s primed for it!

[nod]

45 minutes ago, RDodds89 said:

It doesn’t have PP at the moment, but it had it 12 years ago for 4 houses, so I’m hoping it’ll get it again.   There’s old buildings, water and power so it’s primed for it!

If it had PP 12 years ago you shouldn’t have any problem now 

If anything planning rules have become more relaxed over the last 5 years 

Good luck 
 

[RDodds89]

1 hour ago, nod said:

If it had PP 12 years ago you shouldn’t have any problem now 

If anything planning rules have become more relaxed over the last 5 years 

Good luck 
 

 

Can only hope!  I just hope they allow me to finish with timber clad & not require brick/render.   It’s in a rural setting, near trees & farm land so hoping it would ‘blend in’

[nod]

1 minute ago, RDodds89 said:

 

Can only hope!  I just hope they allow me to finish with timber clad & not require brick/render.   It’s in a rural setting, near trees & farm land so hoping it would ‘blend in’.    

We had to go block and render Slate roof sash windows to match the farm next door which is listed 

Originally it was fully stone Rendered in the 70s originally had sash window Everest ally Double glazing installed in the 80s 

No rhyme or reason to some of the decisions 

Tge next one that we start we will bring in a planning consultant 

1 minute ago, RDodds89 said:

 

[RDodds89]

This is 1 I went to see in York, would love something like that. 

[Big Jimbo]

A huge shed like that can be every bit as good as a trad build, but perhaps not worth as much for re-sale.

[RDodds89]

Resale shouldn’t be a problem(I hope).  

 

1. I don’t think I’ll ever want to move, so if I’m there 40 years, it’s no worse than paying £200 a month rent.  

2.  If I do divide the plot, build a bungalow/dormer to sell on, I’ll technically get my plot for free, which I’d hope should be worth a bit if I ever did need to sell up. 

 

Thats is the dream/wishful thinking anyway haha

[SuperJohnG]

Welcome. 

 

Lots of good info to be found here. My advice would be to fully understand the budget and assess the costs to build on that plot prior to purchase. 

 

I have recently completed purchase on 4 acres with legacy PP (albeit mine had commenced previously) get costs for services in and other preliminaries etc. 

 

If your into instagram follow the_hutch_selfbuild they have built very similar to what you are looking at. 

 

Where in the country are you? 

[RDodds89]

I’ll have a look at there page, thanks.  

 

Ye I joined this forum to see if I can try & price up what it’ll roughly cost me to build.   If it’s going to sky rocket, I’ll just have to let the dream go for now.  

 

Im in SW Scotland, Dumfries. 

[RDodds89]

My thoughts are (tell me if I’m wrong, which is more than likely)

 

If I put in a heated passive slab, with a block ring around it, build a 6x2 timber frame, osb on outside, house wrap & larch cladding.  Then insulate between studs, maybe even thin pir boards fixed to stud wall on inside with ply/plasterboard fixed on top.   Roofed with fibre cement sheets.  

 

Without the little details, would that be a sufficient shell to start with?

[Russell griffiths]

23 hours ago, RDodds89 said:

My thoughts are (tell me if I’m wrong, which is more than likely)

 

If I put in a heated passive slab, with a block ring around it, build a 6x2 timber frame, osb on outside, house wrap & larch cladding.  Then insulate between studs, maybe even thin pir boards fixed to stud wall on inside with ply/plasterboard fixed on top.   Roofed with fibre cement sheets.  

 

Without the little details, would that be a sufficient shell to start with?

Sort of, if you use a passive slab you don’t use the ring of blocks. 

More savings. 

I would go for a metal sheet roof, lots on here used them. 

[RDodds89]

15 minutes ago, Russell griffiths said:

Sort of, if you use a passive slab you don’t use the ring of blocks. 

More savings. 

I would go for a metal sheet roof, lots on here used them. 

 

So you can just fix your treated sole plate directly onto concrete?  Well with the dpc under it 

[Russell griffiths]

3 hours ago, RDodds89 said:

 

So you can just fix your treated sole plate directly onto concrete?  Well with the dpc under it 

As long as it’s an insulated slab, not just a raft

as the slab is warm unlike a raft straight onto the ground that would be cold. 

 

I dont think you even need the dpc, as that is under the insulated slab already. 

[Russell griffiths]

That house you have pictured looks like it has a timber floor, don’t get to focused on one build method until you have a good look at your plot, I was going to use an insulated slab but found the height difference on my plot made it a bit prohibited. 

 

Lots on here have done nice houses to a reasonably sensible budget with timber floor and frame. 

 

[RDodds89]

1 hour ago, Russell griffiths said:

That house you have pictured looks like it has a timber floor, don’t get to focused on one build method until you have a good look at your plot, I was going to use an insulated slab but found the height difference on my plot made it a bit prohibited. 

 

Lots on here have done nice houses to a reasonably sensible budget with timber floor and frame. 

 

The house in picture has a timber floor yup.   It’s sitting on concrete blocks, timber joists then osb boarding. Then just built directly on that.   I went to visit that house wen it was -1 and snowing, all they had was a wood stove on in lounge & it was roasting, they also had smart electric heaters in bedroom but I’ve spoke to owner a few times over winters and he very rarely needs the heaters on.  
 

I was only going to go concrete flooring to fit underfloor heating and possibly leave the living area as polished concrete, fit carpet in the bedrooms.  

[RDodds89]