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Render or texture paint on cement board cladding?
saveasteading replied to philcvk's topic in New House & Self Build Design
Over 4 degrees and it's ok. If there is cement in the product then it is a chemical reaction, not drying, so this neds to be for at least a day, including early morning frost snaps. -
Agreed. Such buildings with big spaces have very varied use. They take a long time to heat up for perhaps a short activity. At the parish council everyone is sitting and needs warmth. The badminton club don't need it, but will turn it on anyway. In sports halls we used a big black tube in the ceiling that fired gas, and invisibly send IR down on the users. Teachers told me that they very visibly turned the heating on, the pupils immediately felt the heat, and then subtly turned it off in a half hour. But it can be kept on as necessary and gas is cheaper than electricity. But for a village hall I'd think electric can be considered and the ' visible heat' is a selling point.
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Render or texture paint on cement board cladding?
saveasteading replied to philcvk's topic in New House & Self Build Design
There are systems where a netting is applied first, with screw fixings, then the render sticks to the board enough, with the additional support of the mesh. Very expensive but it works and I would not advise any other way. Or apply sods law and spill paint or render on it accidentally, as we know that doesn't come off. -
Yes, I was assuming that those aluminium rads with prettier shapes and fins will have more surface area for a less huge rad. The main issue is the sizes of rads required in any material. They have to be very big as compared to rads with much hotter water from oil or gas, and a lot of wall is needed. I suppose that can all be carried or barrowed up a track where a lorry can't go. And the footings mixed on site x 100 or 200 mixes, and barrowed to the hole. Dry mix likewise. I've seen an 800m2 floor done in dry screed. At least the guy knew what he was doing tomorrow...and tomorrow... UFH would be perfectly feasible.
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A roofer will know more. However my thought is that these are lots of drips at nails, ie through nail holes. There isn't a great distance upslope from tile bottom to hole and the tiles are flat, so it could be capillary action plus wind. Do nails show through the felt? What is above the felt in the way of battens or board?
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A hood exercise is to think how best to set a fire going at every stage. As a scary example a client had vandals (local kids for fun)) pile up bags of sawdust against a wall and set fire to it. Unlikely to happen, but that's the thought process. Re cavity barriers...if air doesn't flow then fire doesn't spread. It doesn't have to be £21/m. A stack of timber won't blaze, just the surfaces. Keep it tidy. That's the clients job isn't it? Nobody else will. You haven't cleared up your wire ends. 'But they're in sawdust and that's not ours.'
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A picture ? To a 110mm pipe you can cut cement board exactly and either slide it over or half it and push on from either side. The others could perhaps be clustered through another pipe as a duct, and the gaps infilled / sealed.
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Sorry, but that floor construction doesn't seem right to me. Are you trying to invent a method from scratch? My garden shed has a 100mm concrete on earth. For a house as an absolute minimum, 100mm stone then 100mm concrete with mesh, then dpm. after that a timber batten base still feels like a shed to me. THis sort of detail did exist in the distant past, but really isn't right. That's without knowing your site conditions. What is the ground? The U values is way down the list and can follow on from agreeing a structure that will last more than 30 years. So, can you go back a few steps? What is the access for materials like? What is the ground? What is the intended construction, in principle not detail.
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wooden floors is not a problem, unless very thick. Rugs likewise, as the heat will move on and emerge elsewhere. Carpets no. On our latest family project for the rooms where ufh isn't appropriate I am pushing for aluminium skirtings with the ufh pipes in them. No clutter. But you could still put rads in these rooms. 'They' want you to buy bigger kit so push us in that direction.
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Welcome @HighlandHopeful I agree with @ProDavethat UFH is preferable to radiators. The radiators would have to be very large areas when compared to gas or oil fired, which run at much higher temperatures. Also I think they are more expensive than the basic steel ones. That goes a long way to equalising the cost. That is something that needs more local knowledge perhaps. How many days of not quite enough warmth do you tolerate? Plus there is the comfort issue. Warm feet makes you feel good, and so less energy is needed. And of course you are walking and sitting down there, not on high. You are going to have a lot of heat rising to your exposed roof. It might be worth sucking it back down. Also that is all the more reason for having good roof insulation. The invisible benefit is the absence of rads and pipes on the walls. The heat loss calculation is simply a function of area and U value, so you are on the wrong track. Roof, walls, floors with adjustments for windows etc and it is done. What constructions are you having,, if decided? I am sure one or more of us can send a spreadsheet for this... I'd have to find one of mine somewhere. Controversially? Do you need forced air changes? You have a very big volume and 2 of you. You will be opening doors sometimes, and the cooker hood and wc fans vent whether you want them to or not. I am not convinced they are an essential , have pushed my luck (with client agreement) on much more sensitive buildings than this, and had no issues. Excellent. we may have questions back to you. Car radios a speciality? Have a first heart in anticipation.
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Yes. Covers window, minimises fresh air intake (even more so when vehicles park there), difficult to clean or service. If the bracing was hit by a vehicle.....? I met the supposed expert who was sent by the tenant to justify that and other stuff. He installed it....a fitter really , who should not specify or design, and he assured me it was fine. It is going to be relocated but not by his business. And people say I should trust specialists?
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On the other hand, it is better than tucking it away too tightly enclosed. Here is an example of why I don't trust most supposed expert installers in this subject. Retrofitted by the tenant for a new server room in that room. Location useless for efficiency obviously, but also that the rear intakes are jammed tight with leaves. But it's tidy.
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@CemCet has prepared a survey about self-building as part of a degree course. I just did it and it was much more relevant than the average, as most questions made sense and were relevant. I don't know Cem and leave it to you to decide whether to get involved or not. If so, i suggest a private message to @CemCetis best, and not to me please! My name is Cem, and I am a PhD researcher at the University of Nottingham, focusing on self-build housing. My research explores the motivations, challenges, and experiences of individuals who are interested in self-build and self-build owners across the UK.
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MF ceiling grid - hanger distance from walls
saveasteading replied to Thorfun's topic in General Construction Issues
Seriously now, as @Pocster would expect. I asked a Fire Professor how vulnerable the gaps were in single skin boarding, and he said that fire does not get through there, even if unfilled. * Sound is different, obviously, but usually less dangerous. You could even argue that the resulting tiny gap acts as a sound absorbing resonating tube. Just sheet over it. At the perimeter though, fill any gap, as you have both sheets with gaps coinciding. *There were other reasons, now I think more, but this will justify it if you are questioned. -
MF ceiling grid - hanger distance from walls
saveasteading replied to Thorfun's topic in General Construction Issues
I think you would be the first. I wouldn't.
