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We are the giants . We are effectively the first men on the moon . We f’up a bit on our bodged oxygen tanks and dodgy foil clad lunar module . But we are conquering the unknown with our hearts and tiny bit of head and wallet . Go forward young OnOff Skywalker !

Exactly my intended use for PV , charge the battery for night use . Hence agile especially for in winter and lack of PV to charge that battery ( and car ) cheap

Now we’re talking bruv’ I think from the “others” it’s been established it’s not worth it fiscally at least in the short term . I equally was going to have RWH - but as you say payback would be 1 billion years . I actually wanted to produce my own drinkable water from rainwater , but again it just isn’t viable . Looked at pellet boilers for years - before I even began my build . Don’t mind the high initial costs ; but storing pellets is problematic and they just track the price of gas . I want *some* lecky that is free be it pv , wind turbine or my own nuclear power generator ( I’d love one of them - especially when it goes wrong ). Some of us lead . That means mistakes and bad choices will be made . But we pave the way for you lesser mortals to follow . ”This is the way” as the Mandalorian would say . You people are standing on the shoulders of giants ( no emoji exists to demonstrate my complete smugness )

Because I can’t answer that question . What Will lecky cost in 5 years ? Once I add an EV ( everyone seems to ignore the cost of purchase because it’s a CAR ) - then there’s even more benefit . Once I swap to agile more benefit again . The true answer will be in 10 years time . As I said even if I break even by then my carbon footprint would of been reduced for a decade . My gut feeling based on others whom have had a pw for longer is that I’ll reach break even before 10 years . Just like building a house ; I’ll take the plunge and evaluate later if it was worth it . The destination is always the journey .

Very very overcast and rainy . But still just covering my admittedly very low lecky usage

This is a thread about a purchased Tesla - not whether it’s fiscally viable or better / worse than ‘x’.

Yesterday’s figures . Solar today will be tricky - currently 0 ?

I think the solar watt is complete sh*t ? Bet you have an Android phone aswell ! ?

I’ll order one of those aswell so I can start another thread to be poo poo’d on .

My thread ! So ! if you are interested , or want details , or it just takes your fancy as a whim then please post . If you want to rubbish , poo poo , de value , mock then please don’t post . Debate of course is welcome ( not really based on brexit thread and COVID-19) - but if you must - then be broad minded . Don’t be rash . I’ve bought it as others have and will so this isn’t really the thread to say ‘it’s crap ‘ , ‘ not economically viable ‘ - start another thread for that . I think that’s fair !

Because it was a personal unfair dig at me ! My Tesla battery isn’t ‘green’ as Peter states - but an EV or Anything lithium battery is ? Constantly goes on about repayment time etc . @ProDave ; agrees with that but at least put a reasonable and fair argument up ! @PeterW can just drop in - rubbish something then move on with zero response ? . Still hasn’t answered the questions posed . But wants us all to admire his ‘ green credentials’ with postering . That doesn’t do it for me I’m afraid .

As usual my post gets turned into BS . Doesn’t matter what I post . This was about my Tesla and my experience. But no - it has to be destroyed and diluted by admin !!!

PM me if you have an issue with me - we can sort that out real quick .

Sure ! Perhaps you can drop the negative , self righteous god like attitude ? I certainly don’t come across like that - but you do . I’m not the only one to think that ....

Strange how @PeterW doesn’t respond to fair comments out against him . Like the argument how ‘green’ the manufacture of my battery is - which of course would be no less than any EV battery . I think ... If Peter hasn't got one nobody needs one. If Peter didn't think of it then it's not worth considering. If Peter doesn't agree, then whatever it is is wrong. Your opinion doesn't mean toffee unless it matches Peter's. If Peter think's it's not funny then it isn't. If Peter think's it's offensive it is.

Miserable (expletive deleted) on here

Too be fair it did surprisingly well . Min is 5% charge retained for backup . We got to 25% - so 20% on a overcast day with the odd 10 minutes of limited sunshine . It tells me in the stats that I managed 48% self sufficiency. So given the crap weather and time of year I was pleasantly surprised!

Oh don’t worry ! I intend to access all this info into my HA My plan to make it SWMBO friendly ( a challenge if ever there was one ) was a simple traffic light system . So red don’t put anything else on amber use if you must Green go for it Have this simple system on my wall mounted iPads then get SWMBO to check before use . Also have it email me if we change defcom levels so I can interrogate SWMBO about what she has just turned on .

Nah nah ! I don’t care

Main bathroom shower plumbing going in . All good apart from leak on the manifold ?

You phrased it far better than I could . Anyone doing any ‘bit’ is better than nothing . Some of us try to achieve more in this respect even at financial cost . Love to see your quote total for 3 phase , pv mega panels and 3 Tesla batteries . That lot might make your car look cheap ?

Agile isn’t for everyone. I think it’s capped at 35p . You can freely swap tariff anytime to their GO tariff . Lots of people obsessively swap between them to get the best rate . I’m sure by mitigating high load appliances to different times of day makes a reasonable saving . Agile is ‘beta’ , so you are a test pilot . How long before the big 6 copy this rather than on peak / off peak rates with no benefit to the consumer on the wholesale price . I’ve argued the toss with suppliers when they say ‘price is based on crude oil futures market ‘ - to have crude drop . Then 12 months later my price is the same or more . Or when 1 of the big 6 increase prices and the other 5 follow . It’s just a cartel - I hate it . I’m the consumer - I want choice - not rigged pricing . It’s about time the energy market got a fecking big kick - I applaud octopus for doing that .

Agree payback is around 10 years My train of though is that by that time batteries would of improved and be cheaper . So yes you could rightly argue the ‘pay back’ process starts again . In those 10 years until then my carbon footprint would of been reduced significantly- that’s better for the planet . If I break even in 10 years ; nothing has been lost financially.

Ffs yes Are you aware of your pointless responses wasting electricity and the earths resources ? Are you aware of the harmful effects of driving your car and its manufacturing? Are you aware of the products you don’t recycle that could be ? Are you aware of the amount of gas and electric you waste or use inefficiently ? etc etc etc . I can do 300 pages of this if you want . What’s your point ? . Moving ‘forward’ technically means also maybe a step backwards ? Let’s stop manufacturing lithium batteries then ? Will that solve the problem ? What do you want ? Apart from annoying me ? . Though baiting and deliberate arguing were not allowed on this forum .

I got my DNO to export upto 5kw rather than the normal 3.6kw so my pw is set for that .