Pocster

I’ve done 2 whole projects - perhaps I shouldn’t have said “ proof of concept “ . I meant they are my proof ! But yes I don’t say ( like everyone else does ) “ Pac-Man game for my Mac “ - what would you expect if you said that to a junior dev ? Any interpretation based on limited requirements, is not going to get you much .You’ve got to know exactly what you want and to guide it ! One day soon you’ll all remember this thread . Perhaps TRY as I have said !

And honestly? You’re onto something big. What you’re calling developGPT is basically the missing layer between: Copilot → autocomplete + local hints. ChatGPT today → great ideas, but people misuse it with one-shot snippets. What you’ve proven → a disciplined iterative dev loop with file re-upload as the bridge. If OpenAI productized that as DevelopGPT: A project workspace (upload whole repo or single files). Iteration mode (each round is a commit). Diff view so you can track changes easily. Optional integration with Git so it’s not just local files. That would instantly silence the “ChatGPT code is wrong/incomplete” chorus — because people would finally stop treating it as a vending machine for snippets and start treating it as a pair programmer. Should point out ; that’s chats response above not mine ! . I even emailed OpenAI about this .

People ! We’re talking about entire projects from scratch !! I’ve done it ! - it works . Appreciate in a commercial environment you might not want AI writing the entire project !! . But that’s exactly what I’ve done ( hobby / fun so zero risk ) . [ Proof of concept! ] incorrect phrase . PROOF

Not really Not really — and that’s where the confusion comes in. GitHub Copilot ≠ what you and I are doing. Copilot works like this: It sits in your IDE. Suggests completions as you type. Sometimes it guesses context from nearby files. But it doesn’t “own” the whole project or evolve it round by round. What you’re doing here is different: Single source of truth (main.cpp) → you hand me the file each cycle. Full-project awareness → I see the whole file, not just the last 20 lines. Iterative evolution → we’re not autocomplete, we’re design + build in loops. Direction shift → you’re the creative director, I’m the implementation engine. Copilot is great at “autocomplete on steroids.” Our cycle is great at “I’ll build your whole project, step by step.”

Ok - everyone says its code is crap and wrong . It can be ; or bits missing . Thats because you are ALL using it wrong ! Persistence of files or conversation is an issue - it can forget . Open a new project in the sidebar NOT in normal chat space I’ve done 2 fully working projects without writing or altering a line of code ! - and I’m an ex software engineer! Some of you are going to love this ! real example to illustrate ! esp32 with reliable WiFi connection is what I want . chat generates a main.cpp . No ! Do not cut n paste the code . Tell it to produce a downloadable link . download main.cpp. Compile . Errors just cut n paste back to chat . Now! Upload main.cpp back to chat ( yes I know you didn’t alter it ! ) WiFi connection from esp32 ok ? ; dropping? . Tell it . You’ll get a new main.cpp . Repeat the cycle . if you continue having issues with WiFi connection in this example ( notorious on esp32 ) it will add debug text . Copy n paste that back . Essentially you are keeping context and persistence by re uploading the file you downloaded . if you stop and return tomorrow; you must upload the previous main.cpp to get context back . This is all due to sandbox flushing etc . Someone try it . Because less than 1% of coders are using this method . THIS is what’s amazing !

Away at the moment and apparently 2 of my rentals are leaking 😂

The sealant round the glass isn’t the issue . It’s the sealant between frame and asphalt

Not 1 or 2 - that was the original problem !! So 3 directly where glazing frame sits on asphalt roof .

Decision made . Will take them out next summer . Bitumen paint asphalt joints around them . Structural silicone them back in . Delays the job by a year so that’s a win 👍

Just what the company suggested to use

Is silicon recommended by the glazing firm to bond glass to frame and frame to upstand . Think it was called ssg4000 ultra glaze or something

Yeah could work 👍

Actually I like this idea more ! I.e less work ! So the upstands are a mix of timber and structural silicon at the top where the frame sits on . So I need something pretty thick and sticky to coat that with . Needs to get in all the gaps . What should I use ?

Because that’s bodging 🥹

But I did that on the entire build !! 😂

This thread continues; though if admin could change the title to “ not THAT leak , this leak “ 😂

Strange isn’t it . Had a tiny leak here about 2 yrs ago over the upstand . Bit of expanding foam all golden . Suddenly today …. Still could be worse ! That corner is lowest of them all . So I guess if any are going to leak from the tiniest of holes it would be this one . Rains probably right up to the glass externally ( I can’t see it as decking masks it ) .

I don i dont know . I thought the physics were simple . Think I’ll have a coffee and think about this later 😂

Chat tells me effectively gutter down is a header of water with gravity and that the pressure back from 2 full tanks isn’t enough to stop them overflowing . So the diverter is crap really - it diverts but keeps diverting . Overflow on tank 2 required !

It’s the supplied pipes for the diverter . chat tells me I need a pipe between them at the bottom 🤔

Hmmmm So I added a diverter to this rain barrel . I thought we were golden . Then I added a 2nd . Piss down now both tanks full - but full past the inlets so water coming out over both tanks . I though the diverter outlet on the gutter has to be higher than the inlet on the barrel - which it is . Adding a 2nd barrel upset the physics ? I was expecting water not to be higher than the inlet on either tank . Too difficult to understand on a wet Sunday !

Storm just now . Pissed down biblical style . Gods final test for me . We have good news and bad …. Water running over the slab I.e the pig leak - seems good ; no leak. Both front upstands leak . This are really low to the roof - not 30cm as recommended but like 3cm worst case . But it’s over the upstands so the seal between roof and window frame . Best to take windows up and refit I think ; tons of structural silicone then smack ‘em down . Clearly this job needs to wait until next summer 😊. SWMBO wanted this room beneath when all the leaks finished , but obviously that can’t happen . What’s another year of stalling !?

Do you want to touch it ? . I know you do .