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Ok understand the dims there. Shoe a good idea? I wasn't suggesting it.. the opposite in fact, as all I can see is my cabin pillars sit in these shoes, in a puddle of standing water. Shoes mean wet pillar bases.. I think. The same caveat with sitting the posts, rebar between, onto the concrete, surely-? Thanks, zoot

Chaps, I'm wondering if I can crack on trying to get the outer 3x walls of the frame up.. even if perched upon two temporary pillars. Is this the next step I wonder? I feel a bit stuck not knowing what next to do. If I can ( somehow, alone ) get the 3 perimeter frame sections joined to my ledger, I can continue on with the joists. And get it level.. then I can determine exactly where my concrete pads are to go. If I fix my two outer sides, to my front piece with its hangers on... is there any way I can get it up & join to my ledger? I think it just needs a temporary support ( say two vertical timbers) to safely carry on. Thanks, zoot

@Onoff no I don't have a laser thing. Not so cheap, & a week me figuring it out. Bucket idea understood. Now Peter's original idea was a scaffold section, inserted in pillar base, & these two pillars then get into place & braced. Level, plumb etc. Then the concrete is put in to set around the pole. I think this was the idea. The scaffold pole tho, compared to a rebar, is alot more for me to try & do. How do I cut it, & where do even I source a 1/4 of a pole from? Etc. The idea of J90's is simplest, & so maybe easiest for me. It tallies with my video clip. Certainly cheapest. Caveat being tho: the pillar sits in water, like my cabin pillars do in their shoes. I wonder if I can do this idea.. but have a standoff something between pillar & concrete? Thanks, zoot

Hi J. This idea is as per my 'mericun youtube video. I think 2 things seem tricky tho? 1) how do I possibly get that pad, at exactly the right height prior to putting post on? 2) I have a galv shoe thing on my csbin pillar btms.. but seems to me like the bases will rot.. wouldn't this idea be the same? 3) I have the additional issue of where my red line is/ the base of the post ( in the photo above).. is above the ground: so I need to pour the concrete into something, which sits both in -&- sticks up/ out 80mm proud of the ground. Thanks, zoot As

This is kinda similar on my 'mericun "Deck build" youtube video Im basing the build on. What he did, was have a 6" or so round concreted pad hard, with a rebar midpoint set into it, sticking up. Drilled a hole for it in centre btm of post. Etc. Difference maybe thus; his has preset concrete pad, & I think your idea would be get both pillars set level & plumb.. & THEN maybe pour the concrete to set around the pillars spikes-? Great help as always, zoot

Hangers done, end ones as per Onoff idea. Thanks, zh

This is more accurate.. the red mark on the spirit level, is the pillar base mark. Pink line shows slope. Zh

This is my main bugbear. And the only "problem" to solve.. The 2 main pillars, are just shy of 7ft. Ideally I needed 8ft, to cut to size. So a compromised pillar height of max 710mm is only possible = I'm 70mm short of the ground. So I need to build two "mini support pads". And furthermore at the exact point my ground slopes steeply down too. Urgh (the last issue, due to the foot-too-low build issue plaguing me still). In this pic you can see the height of the slope down. From drive it's good 1.5ft ( 1/2 a ft only..... is what my plan said it should've been! ). And the spirit level is 1200mm long: the exact pillar's furthest point.

Decking boards to run same as/ parallel to the ledger board. I managed to get 2 nails in the top of the 3 centre hangers where the cill is. Just got one in each side, of each overhanging section. And put 2 extra nails in on the front each side of each too- Im fairly sure these 3 hangers ok.

Hi J, thing is my support posts for my handrails attatch to the outside: as it was with 6x4, this gave them good timber to fix to. But if I put this outer joist in.. the gap doesn't help this later side support post fixing. I'm not quite on board with the wider suggestion to cover the end grains of the deckking boards. Yes these will go horizontally- across/ parralel to the ledger. Thanks, zh

New n'bors, young farmer couple, nice to me actually. So far. No. The flags ( this one I deliberately included in the photo) are to do with Eisteddfod 2022, very locally to us this year. The assumption was... they were doing it at me? After my serious trials for 5-1/2 years here Onoff, I'll let that insinuation slide. Any thoughts on my work today? Hard graft that with sun beating on my neck. I hope I made a good start. Really grateful for the metal bits Onoff. Zh

Still mulling my outer ones. Actually @PeterW do you think I can bend a joist hanger around the side? Reason for doubling 6x2 to 6x4.. is cosmetic only, ie the outer one clads over the side hanger 'wing' if my idea is any good. Thanks, zh

Its on..

Offered up ledger to see what's what, tapped it once & stuck.. so had to continue. Alot of sledging to get on. So good results, firm as hell. Level. RHS plumb, LHS slightly off. So I'll have to get joist hangers on like so. Middle 3 joist hangers can't even fix to the ledger top tho.. cill in the way. Zh

No shouldn't do. That's a good idea.. understood. The surity of the doubling of boards on the sides though.. might be a bit compromised? Id prefer them as my yellow drawing, if there's a way. Could I bend the LH hanger wing back.. & fix to side of ledger? ---- Got my two 6x6 posts, hangers & twisty nails. And the front 6x2. So I aim to get the outer 4 sided frame up today & tmrw. But I need to go over what the posts are anchored to 1st. A few ideas before. One thing to bear in mind, my posts are just shy of 7ft.. & to the top of my ledger.. is 7ft. No other 6x6 posts in town you see. So I have to probably sit them up 2" on a pad of somesort.

How do I fix these two outer timbers together at the back here? Hangers will only go on one side. (I am cladding these outer sides with another 6x2 later so fix won't be seen)..

Good idea! Plus saves whacking into ledger once up. Am trying to blitz as much as poss in next 3 days. Found the twisty nails ok. Thx

Hi Onoff. Did this first up, but order history doesn't go back 2 yrs. It's ok Im taking an offcut in & go into the few places to try find it.

Doesn't matter/ I'll have to take a 6x2 offcut to town & see what hanger fits. Thx zh

I mean is it 47mm ( i think this is generic 2" ) x 277mm the one I need? (277mm.. means nothing to me.) https://www.screwfix.com/p/sabrefix-standard-jiffy-hanger-47-x-277mm-10-pack/25392 Then there's a 50mm x 275mm. And another @ 47mm x 248mm. And 44mm x 278mm! have no idea.

I know it is. All I was asking, is if you recognised the type/ where from. I have very few places here. I know how my last one worked, i need to track down where i got it from. Can you recognise it, from zooming into the photo? Every type i look at on www " 6x2 joist hanger" looks nothing like it. This is why I am asking, with a photo to help. Thanks, zoot

No, I mean I can't find a link, or remember where i got them from. Trawled loads of pages, pages prior to these pics for eg.. no link or info. Can you recognise this type was my question-? Thanks, zoot

Chaps, anyone recognise these alu joist hangers? I've spent ages on my cabin thread trying to find a link to them. I used twisty nails, & wrapped the top bit over the beam. Thanks, zoot

Yes but only cos my memory is sh*te. Tbh Im surprised I have any left after art school at all...

I'll remember for next time SS. Thanks