Roger440

So what you are saying is you are sufficently wealthy that you can afford to pay MORE to heat your house than you actually need to? And thats its sufficently well insulated that a heat pump will work efficently. That is excellent news. For you. Sadly, not everyone, indeed, the vast majority are in that position.

Agreed. Hence my statement. Whats the downside to cheap abundant energy? All i see is people and governments saying its too cheap. Its not. Its the method of production thats the problem So, as normal, instead of fixing that, just drive the price up, make everyone suffer, and do very little to solve anything. Imagine a world where energy was cheap or free.

Shame. Can you not put them on the side of the barn?

What would happen is it would be a disaster. Many people would have long periods with non functioing equipment, that they cant possibly hope to understand. The reality is we wont get to that point as there simply isnt the ability, nor funding, to do this at scale. Dont forget, the majority of the population havent worked out when or if you need to open a window in your house. To the point a child died. Given that the level of complexity you describe, is beyond my ability to understand, and i understyand much more than the man on the clapham omnibus, i will resist it for as long as possible, because out in the real world, there is simply no support if you dont understand it yourself

If you have aa field, are you not better of ground mounting the panels much nearer vertical and getting the best possible winter production and sacrificing peak summer performance when you cant hope to use it all?

What benefit do you percieve? Its certainly not cost.

Its not cheap. And now its even less cheap. I fail to see any down sides to cheap abundant energy. Onlt that current thinking is that way because we burn fossil fuels. If we didnt, wheres the problem?

The second paragraph is the most important one for me. The government is allowing the price to remain artificially high by pegging the price of renewable to gas. Thats an articificial construct that could be removed overnight almost. However, they choose to leave it in place. The question is why. Doesnt take a genius to work out. I see on here, people often saying electricity/energy is too cheap. Cheap, abundant energy is what we should be aiming for, for the benefit of everyone. Why people believe we should deliberatly push people into poverty, i dont know. Maybe you should examine your morals?

Thats good news. No desire to involve and planning people. No good can come from that. 2 seperate 3500l tanks would be ok.

Looking at a rework of existing arrangements. House currently has a 1000 lite tank. This is too small and leaves me at the mercy of the markets. A much bigger one will allow me to pick and choose when to fill. The "internet" suggests 3500 lite max in a domestic setting. I also have a large barn that is used as a workshop (for personal use). So, ideally another tank. The regs for oil storage aree split between, domestic, commercial and agricultural. So the questions are, 1, Does the 3500 limit for domestic apply to the whole property, or is it "per tank" and i can have more than one? 2, Given its a small holding, and the barn is "probably" agricultural, (even though there was no plasnning approval) is it domestic, or agricultural. Or even commercial? 3, Having read all the regs, im none the wiser. 3500 to supply both buildings is not really where i want to be. But can it be 2 tanks totalling 3500 or is it one tank only? Any thoughts?

Thats good news. I have exactly the same problem, O2 in this instance. Like sky, a total waste of space. Looks like i need to change provider too. I have the additional, equally unsolvable problem, of my VOIP work phone not working. The internet is off a 4G aerial. The internet is fine. Circa 30mps. The internet suggests EE block them, which who internet is with. They say otherwise, but plenty of people sayimg the are wrong and they block it. Sadly, this needs resolving ASAP as i cant move in until it works. Like the wifi calling issue, nobody at all can actually give you a straight answer! Short of trying every provider until it does work, im out of options. A satellite broadband set up looks to be next. Didnt want to do that.

Are they actually registered for VAT though. If they are, they wont even need to pay VAT themselves at point of entry as it always used to be. You just add it to your VAT return at the end of the quarter. To me, this sounds like they are NOT VAT registered. Or they are clueless. Or on the make. As above, is the UK vat, or Polish VAT they want you to pay?

Are you sure.?in your previous posts you talk about vapour barriers.................................

I think you need to consider what you are doing here. You have a sandstone wall, presumably with no DPC. Your list of options includes both vapour premeable and non permeable. Given your wall build up, why are you considering a non permeable build up?

Thats still bonkers! If you do the floor, adding a UFH loop is pennies extra, UFH pipe is cheap. All you need is this: https://www.ufhtradedirect.co.uk/multi-zone-warm-water-kits/358-623-emmeti-2-port-x-100-metre-kit.html#/57-thermostats-hetta_programmable_thermostat_000 Make sure its pressurised when the floor is laid though! I did that bit myself when i had the floor done. If its old with no DPC, id strongly suggest NOT using a modern DPM under with PIR/EPS etc. Likely to caiuse you more damp issues. Damp walls = cold walls (you dont mention that?) I used the foamed glass under the slab. Should ensure a reduction in moisture getting to walls, plus insulate and act as the foundantion layer at the sime time, so a thinner build up. You dont want to disturn the foundations on this by digging down to far. Again i stripped out the floor, dug down a bit and prepared ut myself. Then the chaps came in and put the foamed glass down. With hindsight, i could easily have done that myself. Then i put the pipes down. Then they came back and laid the floor. In my case it was connected to my existing heating circuit (oil) All that said, you need to insulate the roof first, an, i suspect your walls are wet, so will suck heat like nothing else. Whats the humidity levels in the house?

Id question that. Looking at their accounts, there is no way they are involved in building or maintaining it. Simply not enough money passing through to support that. I reckon prodave has it right, they bought a bunch of shares and are selling them on. Id take a guess that the "resonable fee" will turn out to be very large, and they definitely wont be around in a few years time. As i said, having engaged with them, the ceased immediately when i asked them to demonstrate that my investment was safe and my discounted bills would continue if they ceased to be the managing agent. They initally tried to use the "its a cooperative" angle, which ripple quite cleary isnt. If prodave is right, then, as far as i can see, you are not protected in any way against them going bust, or otherwise squandering your money. If im wrong on that and its covered by the FCA or similar, im happy to be corrected.

Indeed it is. I did O level (that dates me) in maths and physics. The flaw in the plan was that i failed both!

No info on nipples there !! But with regard the company, not very big is it? Raises more questions than answers. Not sure how we deduce that its a co-operative (or not). Looks like a regular ltd company, though im no expert on these matters. Even if it is, i dont see that stops it going bust. The windfarm that you are alledgedly investing in is a seperate entity. So what is my recourse to my share of that?

I know it not realistic. As do you and anyone with half a brain. So why say it? However, if you are a gas company, and the PM is spouting this nonsense, would you not revise your plans, investment and maintenance accordingly? Its going to be quite a difficult business to exit without going bust in the process. Where do you even start with winding down an infrastructure system the size and complexity of the gas network.

Almost none to answer your last question. Training wont fix the problem. And who would train them anyway? Doing it right is complex and requires thougt, understanding and some calulations. Those that can do that will. And will no doubt have more work than they can cope with. The scale of education required to get to a point where the alleged wave of heat pump installations that need doing are done right is mind boggling. It simply cant and wont happen at the pace being talked about. I had a nice chap move my oil boiler, as it was rather low and somewhat flood prone. Its outside, so the pipes outside needed extending as part of raising it. Attached to the wall with the usual white clips. Under duress he fitted some 13mm wall, grey pipe insulation. The stuff you get from B&Q/wickes etc. Which he had to trim to fit between the wall and pipe. At the ends where there is a 90 degree fitting he put some duct tape over the exposed elbows. And called it done. So bugger all insulation, un insulated on the elbows, and with insulation thats not UV stable in an outdoor south facing environment. So i get to heat up the world. This is basic stuff. And these are the people you are expecting to come up with and install and set up a complex system multi-zone system? As i say, not going to happen. I have subsequently had to insulate it properly with UV stable, 25mm wall armaflex. With proper corners. Though still compromised on clearance to the wall as i cant change that. Yet everyone uses those clips thus ensuring you CANT fit insulation. Oh, and where it passed through the wall, he sleeved them through a 28mm copper pipe. Which is good as it means the actual pipe wont be in contact with the brick/cement. Sadly, however, it surfaces inside a boxed in area. No attempt made to seal the sleeve to the pipe or the sleeve to the wall. So another penetration that can leak air.................... Needless to say, also fixed by me.

Bit of a flaw that one. So you "could" never see any benefit if it doesnt actually get built? I did ask them what happens if they go bust. Aside from mounting a robust defence based on being a co-operative and that i would own a piece of windfarm, they elected not to actually answer my question if they do indeed go bust as the (their words) "managing agents". What i cant figure out is who is the cooperative, ripple as the manging agent, or the company building the wind farm. Something tells me going bust is inevitable once they have amassed a pile of money. Maybe im too cynical???

Cant do multiquote. So... Why does a gasification boiler add complexity if im just heating up a very big water tank. Surely it would just have a seperate coil in the tank from all the other clutter? What am i missing? Surely wiring up PV direct to immersion heaters is less efficent than a ASHP? Whilst it certainly has simplicity on its side, id need a much bigger array. My experience of valves in domestic heating systems isnt one of reliability. Useless bloody things. Either seized or piddling out water. You are correct on current government policy on gas boilers. ie, new can no longer be fitted, but you can still use them. Starmer stated that if elected he will phase out all fossil fuel burning by 2030. Thats a very different proposal.

That wont work. Where are the clever people that can set all that stuff up. Let me tell you, there are nowhere near enough of them. Nor, realistically is it likely that the installer can set this up at the time. As is evidenced on here, to get these things working perfectly takes some analysis, tinkering and experimentation to get right. Out in the real world that just isnt going to happen. People will do what they always do. Open a window, switch off the MVHR etc. Thats before you get to the costs of such systems.

"Could" easily do so. May not want to. I find 21.5 to be just right in my living room. You also need to factor in the time of year. Peoplec will often want a higher temp in winter than in summer. I found this back when i had a fleet of trains to look after. The complaints were too cold in winter, too hot in summer. The reality was, the temps were always the same. So i made it a twice yearly task to change the target setting. Going from memory, we changed it to 21.5 in winter, 19.5 in summer. Customer complaints largely disappeared. Still the odd, genuine complaint because it was broken of course, but basically solved the issue. Besides, there can be other benfits to more brief attire depending who you are living with.................................

"Could" easily do so. May not want to. I find 21.5 to be just right in my living room. You also need to factor in the time of year. Peoplec will often want a higher temp in winter than in summer. I found this back when i had a fleet of trains to look after. The complaints were too cold in winter, too hot in summer. The reality was, the temps were always the same. So i made it a twice yearly task to change the target setting. Going from memory, we changed it to 21.5 in winter, 19.5 in summer. Customer complaints largely disappeared. Still the odd, genuine complaint because it was broken of course, but basically solved the issue. Besides, there can be other benfits to more brief attire depending who you are living with.................................