Contemporary Ball Ache

Looks good for haunching up kerbs etc.  Tossers.

So where does that leave you? What's the fix/work-round for the Cemex stuff, and what are you going to use instead of the lump of 'clod'?

 

If all orders are detailed, in writing, then wriggling out would arguably be difficult. OTOH total inactivity/failure to engage works for recalcitrant contractors all the time.

 

Also, it just occurs to me that any 'obvious' description, especially in a product name, probably has to be queried. You said '...there is a clue in the name 'Easyflow', but maybe there simply isn't! 'Oh, we call it that, Sir, but it's stiff - and does not flow easily - when we think it should be.'. I am not sure I'd have queried that either, but it's a Life Lesson...

 

Keep us posted on the next steps and, I sincerely hope, the success thereof.

Edited Tuesday at 08:54 by Redbeard

Did they take it back at their cost?

Do you have holcim round there? We have a local quite advanced batching plant. Local businessman set it up and they bought him out. They do it too. Even some of the volumetric boys are doing it round here now but I'd be a bit wary of them. 

Unfortunately, we only have Cemex and Heidelberg near us.  Reading is slightly too far and was warned by another concrete supplier in Woking that when it comes to SCC you want to source it from a plant near to the site.  I subsequently discovered yesterday after Heidelberg requested the ticket from the batching plant, that the operative had entered a slump of 75 and not 750.   

 

Having know understood the error, I stupidly got them to send another batch today as I have to get these slabs done.   After they had put in over 1m3 it became apparent that they had messed up again as the concrete just wasn't flowing like SCC should.  I raked like a man possessed and thought I was going to have a heart attack.  I had no choice though as I was on my own and thought "wtf do you do with so more concrete already in.  I can't stop and leave it, so water had to be added.  The driver didn't speak hardly any English and couldn't understand what I was asking him.   I've requested full details from them as I am completely conscious that water should not be added.

 

I know individuals on here will be thinking.  "stupid xxxx, why didn't he carry out a slump test on site ...". But how many people actually do that for a residential house build.  I worked in construction for a few years and even spent time doing factory floors and not once did I see a slump cone.  It's not rocket science and I'm just pxxxxed off dealing with such incompetent fools.

 

 

9 hours ago, Oz07 said:

Did they take it back at their cost?

Yes, they did.

Why are you not doing a sump test when the truck arrives 

one bucket full out the truck, slump test, if it fails it goes back. 
 

every video I’ve seen on scc the test it as soon as it turns up. 

1 hour ago, Russell griffiths said:

Why are you not doing a sump test when the truck arrives 

one bucket full out the truck, slump test, if it fails it goes back. 
 

every video I’ve seen on scc the test it as soon as it turns up. 

I've never tested it tbf. But then again I've never had a problem with it. 

6 hours ago, Oz07 said:

I've never tested it tbf. But then again I've never had a problem with it. 

I’ve never used it as nobody does it close enough to me. 
but when I was doing the research everybody did like a reverse slump, it spreads out on a board and you measure the diameter of the spread. 

8 minutes ago, Russell griffiths said:

but when I was doing the research everybody did like a reverse slump, it spreads out on a board and you measure the diameter of the spread. 

 

Just seconding this. Never done this but all my research has said you absolutely need to test every load if you want a good result. (Not just SCC but concrete* in general). The load gets rejected if it doesn't pass, don't allow water to be added.

 

The drivers and companies are all used to this and it shouldn't be a problem to do as the first thing you do when the truck arrives.

 

Edit: * For anything important

Edited 5 hours ago by -rick-