Vel810 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Hi, Could anyone please let me know what is a good price to pay for floor tiling with Porcelain tiles (just for labour, accessories, grout etc... ) per sq mt.. I am planning to buy the tiles myself. V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 You may well get a good price if you buy the materials with the tiles, especially if buying from an independent. If so, talk to your tiler about what to get. Generally the powdered type that binds chemically rather than the premixed stuff in a bucket is the better option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 I charge £22 per mtr for floors 30 mtrs and over £4 for laying decoupling mat Groute and adhesive at cost Flexible adhesive £8.50 20kg Decoupling mat £6 per mtr suply for small areas bathrooms etc I normally allow £200 per day All plus vat Unless zero rated Most happy custermers will be happy to help there tiler out and show off the lovely new bathroom off so make sure that you have a look at a previous job There are some really poor tilers out there And not always cheaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, nod said: I charge £22 per mtr for floors 30 mtrs and over £4 for laying decoupling mat Groute and adhesive at cost Flexible adhesive £8.50 20kg Decoupling mat £6 per mtr suply for small areas bathrooms etc I normally allow £200 per day All plus vat Unless zero rated Most happy custermers will be happy to help there tiler out and show off the lovely new bathroom of So make sure that you have a look at a previous job There are some really poor toilets out there Not always cheaper I’d hold back on buying the tiles My wife has chosen Italian plank tiles at 61 per mtr From a supplier that I’ve not dealt with He said that he will discount by 15% For a 150 mtrs I nearly choked on my tea when she told me I would exspect to get them for 30 per mtr and save £5 per metre on adhesive and the same on matting so so at these rates your tiling labour would be free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Not quite the answer you want (as I am doing my own tiling) but I have just bought 7 square metres of porcelain tiles, adhesive and grout. Total cost of materials £222 The scary thing being the adhesive cost more than the tiles!!!!! I will have spent 4 half days doing the tiling, so lets say 2 man days, the labour would cost more than the materials if I had to pay for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragg987 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 We paid £200 / day labour only for all our tiling. Approx 3 days per bathroom, porcelain tiles, including floors and part walls (shower, sink, toilet, bath). About 20m2 of tiling per bathroom, it involved some more complex corners, joints, holes etc as well as trims. The labour was cheaper than materials. Our local indy tiler gave great advise, customer service (we walked away with a boot full of samples) and supplied all tiles, grouts, adhesives, trims, tanking, drills at a good discount. Don't underestimate the cost of the bits - you can easily double the tile cost by the time you add the rest in. Prices on tiles can be crazy, and £61 seems very high, we compared a few on site and settled on a £26 one (after discount). Definitely man-made but it has all the lovely texture and randomness you can expect of natural stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 1 hour ago, ProDave said: Not quite the answer you want (as I am doing my own tiling) but I have just bought 7 square metres of porcelain tiles, adhesive and grout. Total cost of materials £222 The scary thing being the adhesive cost more than the tiles!!!!! I will have spent 4 half days doing the tiling, so lets say 2 man days, the labour would cost more than the materials if I had to pay for it. Tile prices have gone through the roof Dave Some of the Turkish and Chinese are reasonable But I wouldn’t use them with UFH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Harris Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 11 minutes ago, nod said: Tile prices have gone through the roof Dave Some of the Turkish and Chinese are reasonable But I wouldn’t use them with UFH Out of interest, what exactly is the issue with UFH? I hear this a lot about flooring, and I'm not at all sure why. UFH will rarely, if every, make the floor warmer than around 25 to 26 deg C, as even 26 deg C is about 64 W/m², which is a fair bit of heat into a room. I've found that the tiles in our hall, where the sun shines through the glazing, reach far higher temperatures, as high as 40 deg C on one occasion when I measured it. Similarly, we have a section of bamboo flooring adjacent to our West facing French windows, that reaches similar high temperatures when the sun shines on it - so hot as to be uncomfortable to walk on with bare feet (there's now a rug there to ease this!). I know virtually nothing about flooring (other than having laid it, at some cost to my knees and back!), but have always been a bit puzzled by concerns about UFH, when it seems that any section of floor that is exposed to bright sun could get a great deal hotter than it would from the UFH. I have wondered if there was something else causing these concerns, really just because I can't see the logic behind them, but I could easily have missed something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 1 hour ago, JSHarris said: Out of interest, what exactly is the issue with UFH? I hear this a lot about flooring, and I'm not at all sure why. UFH will rarely, if every, make the floor warmer than around 25 to 26 deg C, as even 26 deg C is about 64 W/m², which is a fair bit of heat into a room. I've found that the tiles in our hall, where the sun shines through the glazing, reach far higher temperatures, as high as 40 deg C on one occasion when I measured it. Similarly, we have a section of bamboo flooring adjacent to our West facing French windows, that reaches similar high temperatures when the sun shines on it - so hot as to be uncomfortable to walk on with bare feet (there's now a rug there to ease this!). I know virtually nothing about flooring (other than having laid it, at some cost to my knees and back!), but have always been a bit puzzled by concerns about UFH, when it seems that any section of floor that is exposed to bright sun could get a great deal hotter than it would from the UFH. I have wondered if there was something else causing these concerns, really just because I can't see the logic behind them, but I could easily have missed something. I stoped short at saying Chinese and Turkish tiles are Crap But they are not fired for as long and quite brittle Very prone to chipping Which wouldn’t be an issue in bathrooms But I wouldn’t put them on a downstairs floor By far the best are Italian Spanish Portuguese In that order Nearly always Italian or Spanish on The commercial jobs I do I wouldn’t put tiles onto a heated screed without matting But three years back we were converting a barn for the M.D. of a large company that we do a lot of for He needed to be in by Christmas Couldnt get his bio boiler commissioned Said go ahead and tile the 153 mtr floor No time to bother with decoupling matting Three years on it looks just like the day it was done He’s time poor and cash rich and can easily afford to have the lot roped up and done again So there’s no telling If I took a chance and didn’t mat mine Which would save me about a thousand I guarantee mine would crack or lift 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Harris Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Thanks, that's useful to know. Our travertine is bonded down with normal standard set flexible tile adhesive, straight to a concrete slab with UFH in it. The bamboo is similar, I bonded that down to the primed slab with some very expensive Sika adhesive. Both seem to be fine, with no signs of any problems at all after a couple of years. Our floor rarely gets warmer than 22 deg C from the UFH, though, except for the bits that catch the sun that can get uncomfortably hot in summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 At out last house I "broke all the rules in the book" Floor tiles (mixture of slate and ceramic) glued directly to P5 chipboard with a "flexible tile adhesive" and UFH. 14 years on, all is still perfect. Present bathrooms that I am tiling are tanked with the Impey Water guard membrane which is a decoupler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 45 minutes ago, ProDave said: At out last house I "broke all the rules in the book" Floor tiles (mixture of slate and ceramic) glued directly to P5 chipboard with a "flexible tile adhesive" and UFH. 14 years on, all is still perfect. Present bathrooms that I am tiling are tanked with the Impey Water guard membrane which is a decoupler. When first started tiling there was no flexible adhesives We would screed in the morning and go on the screed in the afternoon with board and tile straight onto the screed Set like iron The first time I used decoupling matting was about eight years ago Now most jobs I price spec it as standard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Well I am in the middle of tiling onto liquid screed and no one has mentioned de coupling!, I just sealed the floor and used flexible adhesive. It’s been down at least 2 hours and no problems yet ?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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