Gballam Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Has anyone built a wall build up like this? Any thoughts? Walls – U-value 0.12 W/m²K Internal Finish: 12.5 mm Plasterboard Service Cavity: 50 mm battened void (filled with extra mineral wool?) Airtight & VCL Layer: Pro Clima Intello with joints taped using Pro Clima Tescon Vana. Structural Frame: 140 mm timber studs. Insulation: 140 mm full-fill mineral wool cavity insulation (e.g., Knauf RS45 or Rockwool RWA45). External Sheathing: 9 mm OSB3. Breather Membrane (Frame): Protect TF200. EWI: 160 mm high-density mineral wool (e.g., Rockwool Frontrock or density-equivalent RWA45 slabs). Weather Seal: High-performance W1-rated breather membrane (e.g., Tyvek Housewrap) installed over EWI. Cavity Fixings: Thermally broken structural insulation screws (e.g., HECO Topix-Plus Therm) installed at a 60–67° angle. Screws must achieve a minimum 50 mm embedment into structural timber studs. Ventilation: Horizontal structural battens (min. 38x89 mm) + vertical counter-battens Fire Safety: Euroclass A1 non-combustible cavity barriers. External Finish: Cedral Click vertical cladding + starter/top profiles + vermin mesh.
Russell griffiths Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Why. just build a wider wall and put the insulation in that, your Ewi sounds a nightmare to install and detail. just sounds all over complicated and not needed. 2
Gballam Posted 1 hour ago Author Posted 1 hour ago The why is trying to avoid thermal bridging without a twin frame. The issue is the complexity!
saveasteading Posted 46 minutes ago Posted 46 minutes ago A service cavity filled with mineral wool isn't accessible any longer. Just partially fill? Your thermal bridging is through the studs but this will be calculated... it is normal. Have you a target for insulation or throwing all you can at it?
JohnMo Posted 43 minutes ago Posted 43 minutes ago Do you need the internal breather membrane? Cannot see what that does. Between studs knauf Frametherm 32, easier to install and better U value. I would do a simple twin stud, fill with frametherm 32, or blown in insulation. OSB board outside with membrane. Or 140mm structural, OSB outside with membrane, internally PIR skin over studs to achieve u value
Redbeard Posted 39 minutes ago Posted 39 minutes ago (edited) I have done something vaguely similar, but with wood fibre. Just stagger the outside and inside verticals and make it as 'fat' as you need to get your desired U value net of the timber fraction. In my case the external members were structural and the internals not so, but it can be either way round, or indeed the load can be shared. Edited 36 minutes ago by Redbeard
Gballam Posted 19 minutes ago Author Posted 19 minutes ago Thanks all, very helpful thoughts. Yes I have been wondering whether a hybrid wall of 60mm woodfibre outside studs plus the mineral wool and then pir inside studs is more achievable
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