Onoff Posted June 9 Posted June 9 1 hour ago, SteamyTea said: Where do you wire the earth to? Myself, via a wander lead, then to ground as part of my earthing therapy regime... 1
Beau Posted June 9 Posted June 9 (edited) 9 hours ago, MikeSharp01 said: They saw you coming, wire is wire and although I agree nor all wires are created equal they are more equal than a. The average ear can tell any difference and b. The fidelity of the cheap speakers, well cheap by comparison to the £1000 wires. OK I'll bite. I don't know the reasons but cables can make a major difference to the sound on a decent hifi system. Many moons ago I got to do a barter with friend who was working as a hifi reviewer for the magazines. He needed some wood work and in exchange I got to try out and keep some hifi equipment. We were nearly done and he then asked about my speaker cables. I was using QED 200 strand which was considered an OK budget cable at the time. He went up into the loft and handed me 3 hefty coils of speaker cable and I was sent off to compare them and report back as he always valued a second opinion. All were Audioquest and of a similar thickness and length. I would play the same track over and over while swopping cables. The first two I tried were better than mine and slightly different from one another but nothing dramatic. The third one I tried was a step change (Audioquest Hyperlitz for anyone who is interested) Everything sounded more open and simply more musical. It made as much difference as a major upgrade to an amp or the speakers. Turned out it was the most expensive at £95 per metre and I had 2x 7.5 lengths of it which I was allowed to keep. I ended up with cables, a pre amp and some amazing if eclectic speakers in exchange for building some garage doors and a chair. I think was the winner in that barter not that I think he had to pay for any of the gear. When he wrote favourable reviews they didn't always ask for the equipment to be returned. Also don't neglect your room. When we moved into the barn I set up this same hifi system and it sounded completely different and in a BAD way. It became way to bright and in your face due to all the flat reflective surfaces, tiles not carpet and general lack off stuff to break up and absorb sound waves. Edited June 9 by Beau
Onoff Posted June 9 Posted June 9 7 minutes ago, Beau said: Turned out it was the most expensive at £95 per metre No good for @Pocster he doesn't buy cheap! 1
Kelvin Posted June 9 Posted June 9 The ‘more musical’ HiFi reviewer’s go to term when ‘I liked it better’ doesn’t cut it. 😂 1
Pocster Posted June 9 Author Posted June 9 28 minutes ago, Onoff said: No good for @Pocster he doesn't buy cheap! Yeah , £95 a metre wire that’s what I use on my vac .
Pocster Posted June 9 Author Posted June 9 Money spent . Fair play to RicherSounds did a good job . In the cinema room he asked if I wanted a drink . Did ask for a beer . But that was a no . So r6000f II left and front mains 500c II centre 4 x 40m for surrounds s121 sub No 3800h in stock . Went online to Peter Tyson and ordered that . Demo’d the Sonos arc ultra also . Significantly better than my q990c . But a true surround system was even better - he could only do 5.1 - sounded great though . Now I just tell SWMBO it all cost £800 . 1
MikeGrahamT21 Posted June 9 Posted June 9 2 hours ago, Pocster said: Money spent . Fair play to RicherSounds did a good job . In the cinema room he asked if I wanted a drink . Did ask for a beer . But that was a no . So r6000f II left and front mains 500c II centre 4 x 40m for surrounds s121 sub No 3800h in stock . Went online to Peter Tyson and ordered that . Demo’d the Sonos arc ultra also . Significantly better than my q990c . But a true surround system was even better - he could only do 5.1 - sounded great though . Now I just tell SWMBO it all cost £800 . https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/205396452936 🫡 Unfortunately i live nowhere near Bristol, they've just reduced them to about half price!! Could be a bargain for someone looking 1
Pocster Posted June 9 Author Posted June 9 1 minute ago, MikeGrahamT21 said: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/205396452936 🫡 Unfortunately i live nowhere near Bristol, they've just reduced them to about half price!! Could be a bargain for someone looking lol ! Bit late for me - but that does seem a good price !
Pocster Posted June 12 Author Posted June 12 (edited) lol ! No atmos yet - still waiting on those to arrive . But just as is 7.1 it blows away my Samsung soundbar as expected ! Apart from better sound placement ; it’s the dialogue that sometimes I have to ‘strain’ to hear . Not now . SWMBO out so tried rebel moon ( never watched it ) but it’s got lots of explosions , laser shots etc with dialogue in it . So big typical cinema sound . (expletive deleted)ing awesome ( films crap , but I don’t care ) audio . Just aswell I’m detached and under ground ; neighbours be shitting by now 😊 Edited June 12 by Pocster 1
Onoff Posted June 12 Posted June 12 Just now, Pocster said: as expected ! Apart from better sound placement ; it’s the dialogue that sometimes I have to ‘strain’ to hear . "Ja, ja, das ist gut! 😉 1
Thorfun Posted June 12 Posted June 12 I always thought Das Boot was a great film for sound from the silence inside the sub to the crashing waves above it. damn good film to boot as well. (pun intended) and the House of flying daggers drum scene to test out your 7 speaker surround system 1
Pocster Posted June 12 Author Posted June 12 5 minutes ago, Thorfun said: I always thought Das Boot was a great film for sound from the silence inside the sub to the crashing waves above it. damn good film to boot as well. (pun intended) and the House of flying daggers drum scene to test out your 7 speaker surround system I shall use that as a test . Bit of a mess at the moment - speakers in rough positions . Not calibrated yet . Furniture in the bloody way . You know what it’s like . Just wanted to get the basics going so I can then think “ it was worth it “
Thorfun Posted June 12 Posted June 12 Just now, Pocster said: I shall use that as a test . Bit of a mess at the moment - speakers in rough positions . Not calibrated yet . Furniture in the bloody way . You know what it’s like . Just wanted to get the basics going so I can then think “ it was worth it “ probably not worth using the YouTube video of House of Flying Daggers! doubt it's more than heavily compressed stereo. 1
Pocster Posted June 12 Author Posted June 12 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Thorfun said: probably not worth using the YouTube video of House of Flying Daggers! doubt it's more than heavily compressed stereo. Yeah - unlikely to be 7.1 ! . There’s usually some good stuff like that on YouTube anyway I.e hdr , atmos , Dolby vision etc . Used them to test my projector . In a darkened room the image is incredible . If only you stopped fecking about in the garden and got on with your cinema room ! - it’s far more important!! Edited June 12 by Pocster 1
SteamyTea Posted June 12 Posted June 12 (edited) Try the sound out with this: Best to do it at the shop. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSiLUimI8lA Edited June 12 by SteamyTea
Pocster Posted June 12 Author Posted June 12 58 minutes ago, SteamyTea said: Try the sound out with this: Best to do it at the shop. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSiLUimI8lA I’m not going to ask how you found that …
SteamyTea Posted June 12 Posted June 12 1 minute ago, Pocster said: I’m not going to ask how you found that I just followed a link, from here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=747Krf3JqWE
Pocster Posted June 13 Author Posted June 13 Friday and SWMBO is out . So placed speakers properly and did calibration . All good . I have a slight permanent hearing issue caused by illness a year ago and dialogue in movies can be hard . So I boosted the centre and decided to bump the sub . Found a nice noisy scene in rebel moon . Surprised I didn’t shatter the windows ! Turned the sub down promptly! The spatial noises ( even without ceiling atmos ) are far more pronounced without being over bearing . I’m sure there’s further adjustments I can make - for now this will do ! 1
Thorfun Posted June 13 Posted June 13 4 hours ago, Pocster said: Friday and SWMBO is out . So placed speakers properly and did calibration . All good . I have a slight permanent hearing issue caused by illness a year ago and dialogue in movies can be hard . So I boosted the centre and decided to bump the sub . Found a nice noisy scene in rebel moon . Surprised I didn’t shatter the windows ! Turned the sub down promptly! The spatial noises ( even without ceiling atmos ) are far more pronounced without being over bearing . I’m sure there’s further adjustments I can make - for now this will do ! I find it hard to understand how/why people want 2 x subs as one has always been enough. doesn't stop me wanting 2 in my cinema though. 😉 1
Thorfun Posted June 13 Posted June 13 4 hours ago, Pocster said: Friday and SWMBO is out . So placed speakers properly and did calibration . All good . I have a slight permanent hearing issue caused by illness a year ago and dialogue in movies can be hard . So I boosted the centre and decided to bump the sub . Found a nice noisy scene in rebel moon . Surprised I didn’t shatter the windows ! Turned the sub down promptly! The spatial noises ( even without ceiling atmos ) are far more pronounced without being over bearing . I’m sure there’s further adjustments I can make - for now this will do ! when are you atmos speakers turning up?
Pocster Posted June 13 Author Posted June 13 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Thorfun said: when are you atmos speakers turning up? Well ! It’s one of those bs dropship companies ; I even checked I’m covered with my bank before ordering . In theory within the next 7 days Edited June 13 by Pocster
Pocster Posted June 13 Author Posted June 13 8 minutes ago, Thorfun said: I find it hard to understand how/why people want 2 x subs as one has always been enough. doesn't stop me wanting 2 in my cinema though. 😉 Well ! After bits of research some AVC’s like the 3800h can activate the appropriate sub - it can take 4 - so directional !! 1
MikeGrahamT21 Posted June 13 Posted June 13 11 minutes ago, Thorfun said: I find it hard to understand how/why people want 2 x subs as one has always been enough. doesn't stop me wanting 2 in my cinema though. 😉 Multiple subs allows evenness of bass without any 'boomy' areas and flat spots, and you can run both at a reduced volume, so ideal for houses with neighbours joined on like me. I did have 2 subs, and they were amazing, but one broke, so back down to one now, you can definitely tell the difference. I could absolutely skin you @Pocster this thread has caused me to look at newer better speakers to go with my dinosaur TV, and i've been unfortunate to find the Monitor Audio Apex range 🫢 I am resisting though!! 1 1
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