Putting in hard standing. Constitute commencing development?

[flanagaj]

I have a number of conditions that need to be signed off before we can officially start development.  Before our app was granted, I dug a trench to have a temporary water supply put in, and I now need to get a hard standing down asap for a static caravan (seen a very tidy one for reasonable money), but will putting down a temporary hard standing for a mobile home fall foul of enforcement or will they be ok about it?

[nod]

It probably wouldn’t as far as planners are concerned But I’d check with your cil that it doesn’t breach it 

[BotusBuild]

Can you wait until your CIL exemption has been granted? I know you've already submitted this.

 

If not, no one locally should complain if you do the work tidily (the main way local council will find out). If you can achieve tidy, quietist, clean work before CIL exemption crack on.

[Temp]

Don't start on site until the CIL exemption is granted in writing or you can lose it. Not worth the risk.

[flanagaj]

There is no CIL for a single dwelling with Basingstoke & Deane.

So I had a response back from Development Control.  They basically confirmed what the architects stated.  "The siting of the mobile home and the hardcore standing are permitted development for a temporary period whilst the dwelling is constructed.  The siting of the mobile home and hardcore would not constitute commencement of the development."

Edited Monday at 11:18 by flanagaj

[Redbeard]

Excellent. Sounds like 2 hops forward!

[saveasteading]

42 minutes ago, flanagaj said:

commencement of the development."

Building inspectors became strict on this about 8? Years ago. There must have been an issue.

Whereas once you could prepare the site or put up surveying posts and profiles, they now wanted some actual construction of the primary project.. Eg a section of foundation or the hardcore for a slab.

[DevilDamo]

5 hours ago, saveasteading said:

Building inspectors became strict on this about 8? Years ago. There must have been an issue.

Whereas once you could prepare the site or put up surveying posts and profiles, they now wanted some actual construction of the primary project.. Eg a section of foundation or the hardcore for a slab.

The Building Regulation definition of commencement changed. The Planning definition of commencement has not changed.

 

According to legislation, making a material start would be defined as any of the following material operations:

- Any work of construction in the course of the erection of a building.

- Any work of demolition of a building (where demolition is authorised by the planning permission).

- The digging of a trench which is to contain the foundations, or part of the foundations, of a building.

- The laying of any underground main or pipe to the foundations or part of the foundations of a building.

- Any operation in the course of laying out or constructing a road or part of a road.

- Any change in the use of any land which constitutes material development.

 

To be material, an operation must be more than de minimis (i.e. more than negligible).

[saveasteading]

4 hours ago, DevilDamo said:

Any operation in the course of laying out or constructing a road or part of a road.

Our BCO didn't accept that any longer. Even strippng the site was a marginal decision unless on a  grand scale.

Banging in some posts with cross rails and painting red and white stripes had been my default for years.....they look good on site too.

[DevilDamo]

14 hours ago, saveasteading said:

Our BCO didn't accept that any longer.

I wasn’t talking about Building Control.

[saveasteading]

28 minutes ago, DevilDamo said:

wasn’t talking about Building Control

My error in non clarity. Planners required  Bco to be satisfied it was started. They would only seek proof if there was any complaint  but it was our risk. The bco advised what they now deemed 'started', and it was stricter than previously.

He didn't know the reason, but said it was policy.  Presumably there had been  a dispute somewhere.