Alan Ambrose Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 Original fairly techy and detailed report here: https://ecoblock.berkeley.edu/blog/californias-growing-solar-and-wind-problem/# Summary here: https://www.latimes.com/environment/story/2024-11-24/california-has-so-much-solar-power-that-increasingly-it-goes-to-waste So, will we get the same thing here one day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 Hopefully. We have about 90 GW of conventional generation in the UK, our current demand is 41 GW, so rather a non story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 From the last story: Gov. Gavin Newsom's advisors and those who manage the state's electric grid say they are working to reduce the curtailments, including by building more industrial-scale battery Storage facilities that soak up the excess solar power during the day and then release it at night. Which is sensible, if overdue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Ambrose Posted November 27 Author Share Posted November 27 (edited) I'm thinking that we're going to end up flipping from E7-like cheap night leccy to cheap day leccy and expensive night time, no? Well, at least in the summer. On Octopus Agile (which is meant to reflect the 1/2 hour market rates) by and large I'm seeing fairly flat rates throughout the day & night except for Octopus's artificial bump between 4 & 7pm. Edited November 27 by Alan Ambrose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted November 28 Share Posted November 28 10 hours ago, Alan Ambrose said: I'm thinking that we're going to end up flipping from E7-like cheap night leccy to cheap day leccy and expensive night time, no? Well, at least in the summer. You're right - In France that seems likely from next summer. According to the Regulator: To take account of changes in the electricity production mix and the abundance of summer photovoltaic production, stakeholders are being consulted on the gradual adoption of summer afternoon off-peak hours from August 2025" Original in French: https://www.cre.fr/actualites/toute-lactualite/la-cre-consulte-sur-le-futur-tarif-dutilisation-des-reseaux-publics-delectricite-turpe-7-transport-et-distribution-pour-la-periode-2025-2028.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Ambrose Posted Thursday at 16:01 Author Share Posted Thursday at 16:01 Interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Ambrose Posted 12 hours ago Author Share Posted 12 hours ago Another one: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-17/solar-flooded-australia-told-its-okay-to-waste-some/104606640 The article makes an interesting point about how that affects grid stability / resilience as well as prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago If you are interested in load balancing, this NFUEnergy explains the TRIAD sessions that the grid operator uses. https://www.nfuenergy.co.uk/in-focus/what-are-triads-and-will-they-affect-you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted 36 minutes ago Share Posted 36 minutes ago When the sun shines and I stay indoors, is the sun going to waste? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted 24 minutes ago Share Posted 24 minutes ago 11 minutes ago, saveasteading said: When the sun shines and I stay indoors, is the sun going to waste? Only if you anthropomorphize it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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