SteamyTea Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 So he lets the generator run in a shed/garage without proper exhaust extraction. What a twat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North80 Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 33 minutes ago, SteamyTea said: So he lets the generator run in a shed/garage without proper exhaust extraction. What a twat. Very bodged install. As you say that garage is a death trap, someone could get carbon monoxide positioning. Also the power cables are on the surface, someone could easily cut into them when gardening. People are highlighting these issues in the comments but he doesn't seem to care. I was just interested in seeing how he wired it in. I'm not an electrician so can't comment on the actual electrical bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North80 Posted November 12 Share Posted November 12 Does anyone know if LPG central heating will be banned under this legislation, specifically systems that use tanks and bottles? The legislation mentions mains gas, but I'm a bit confused about whether bottled gas will be included. This legislation seems completely pointless. Solid fuel fires are the worst form of heating in terms of PM2.5 particles that are harmful to health. Burning oil and gas is significantly less detrimental than using solid fuel fires. Even under the best circumstances, wood burners are problematic, even when people burn sufficiently dry, non-chemically treated wood. However, many people don't use them correctly—they burn wet wood and chemically treated wood. By banning oil and gas heating, this legislation could have the reverse effect, prompting people to install wood burners instead. This would lead to even worse air quality and higher emissions, counteracting the intended environmental benefits. It seems completely illogical to ban oil and gas but not wood burners. Wood burners should be banned first, not oil and gas. As has been mentioned, new homes should be built to be compatible with generators if power cuts are a concern. Occasionally using a petrol or diesel generator during a power cut is far less harmful than allowing people to burn wood all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted November 12 Share Posted November 12 6 minutes ago, North80 said: seems completely illogical to ban oil and gas but not wood burners. Wood burners should be banned first, not oil and gas. Only going to be a temporary ban on the ban. Just political shuffling really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger440 Posted November 12 Share Posted November 12 3 hours ago, North80 said: Does anyone know if LPG central heating will be banned under this legislation, specifically systems that use tanks and bottles? The legislation mentions mains gas, but I'm a bit confused about whether bottled gas will be included. This legislation seems completely pointless. Solid fuel fires are the worst form of heating in terms of PM2.5 particles that are harmful to health. Burning oil and gas is significantly less detrimental than using solid fuel fires. Even under the best circumstances, wood burners are problematic, even when people burn sufficiently dry, non-chemically treated wood. However, many people don't use them correctly—they burn wet wood and chemically treated wood. By banning oil and gas heating, this legislation could have the reverse effect, prompting people to install wood burners instead. This would lead to even worse air quality and higher emissions, counteracting the intended environmental benefits. It seems completely illogical to ban oil and gas but not wood burners. Wood burners should be banned first, not oil and gas. As has been mentioned, new homes should be built to be compatible with generators if power cuts are a concern. Occasionally using a petrol or diesel generator during a power cut is far less harmful than allowing people to burn wood all the time. I think looking for logic isnt likely to get you far. Its government. Worse still, its the scottish government. One does have to conclude that the wood burining stove lobby are highly effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crofter Posted November 12 Share Posted November 12 I think it's hard to persuade the general public that burning wood is bad, in the same way that it's hard to convince people that eating bacon is bad. If humans have been doing something forever, surely it can't be that bad? Unlike those newfangled heat pumps and EVs which are clearly not to be trusted. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oz07 Posted November 12 Share Posted November 12 13 minutes ago, Crofter said: I think it's hard to persuade the general public that burning wood is bad, in the same way that it's hard to convince people that eating bacon is bad. If humans have been doing something forever, surely it can't be that bad? Unlike those newfangled heat pumps and EVs which are clearly not to be trusted. Whats wrong with bacon 🥓? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G and J Posted November 12 Share Posted November 12 1 hour ago, Oz07 said: Whats wrong with bacon 🥓? Nothing, apart from the fact that it's carcinogenic and terrible for the resources that it's production uses. Tastes good though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Ambrose Posted November 12 Share Posted November 12 So, eating bacon sandwiches, while watching the F1, in front of the log burner - is very bad... That's me done for then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G and J Posted November 12 Share Posted November 12 13 minutes ago, Alan Ambrose said: So, eating bacon sandwiches, while watching the F1, in front of the log burner - is very bad... That's me done for then. True. Fancy watching cars going round in circles. Beggars belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North80 Posted November 13 Share Posted November 13 18 hours ago, Crofter said: I think it's hard to persuade the general public that burning wood is bad, in the same way that it's hard to convince people that eating bacon is bad. If humans have been doing something forever, surely it can't be that bad? Unlike those newfangled heat pumps and EVs which are clearly not to be trusted. There is a lot of ignorance regarding the dangers of wood smoke. There was a similar ignorance towards the dangers of asbestos until recently. Even today a lot of older tradesmen downplay the risks of asbestos. The Chilean government are trying to move people away from using wood burners and onto cleaner alternatives like gas. They have done a lot of studies into the dangers of wood burners. The Scottish Government are going to cause more health problems with this new legislation, more people will get wood burners instead of gas which will cause a big decrease in air quality. https://www.ccacoalition.org/news/chile-takes-action-air-pollution 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torre Posted November 13 Share Posted November 13 The difference between a wood burner and bacon is that you can choose to eat a bacon sandwich and it only affects your own health whereas a wood burner pollutes the air for everyone. You can protect yourself from the dangers of bacon, but it needs action at a government level to protect us from pollution. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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