Tiling a wet room

[jayc89]

I'm using one of these linear wet room trays - https://www.drawabath.co.uk/abacus-elements-1800-x-900mm-infinity-level-single-fall-wetroom-shower-tray-kit-1000mm-offset-linear-drain.html - in the instructions it recommends tiling the walls before the floor for better water run off. 

 

Do I need to do that for the entire room or just the wall behind the drain? 

[Onoff]

That's b***ocks. Floor first, right up to the wall. Then bring the wall tiles down onto them with a 1mm gap. Seal with CT1, wipe flush. When set put a silicone bead on which you can periodically replace. 

 

A Welsh wizard once told me that. 

[Pocster]

Also , best make sure room is dry first 😉

[nod]

  On 18/08/2024 at 11:25, jayc89 said:

I'm using one of these linear wet room trays - https://www.drawabath.co.uk/abacus-elements-1800-x-900mm-infinity-level-single-fall-wetroom-shower-tray-kit-1000mm-offset-linear-drain.html - in the instructions it recommends tiling the walls before the floor for better water run off. 

 

Do I need to do that for the entire room or just the wall behind the drain? 

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Yes

Never tile the floor before the wall on any tiling job 

[jayc89]

  On 18/08/2024 at 11:40, Onoff said:

That's b***ocks. Floor first, right up to the wall. Then bring the wall tiles down onto them with a 1mm gap. Seal with CT1, wipe flush. When set put a silicone bead on which you can periodically replace. 

 

A Welsh wizard once told me that. 

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  On 18/08/2024 at 13:17, nod said:

Yes

Never tile the floor before the wall on any tiling job 

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Well that was my thoughts too, but the instructions explicitly say walls first for some reason... Floor it is. 

[nod]

  On 18/08/2024 at 17:56, jayc89 said:

 

 

Well that was my thoughts too, but the instructions explicitly say walls first for some reason... Floor it is. 

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That’s correct Walls first

[Onoff]

I did floor first then protected the floor with Correx. I then used a homemade tile levelling system to place the second tile up.

 

 

For the bottom tile I turned it over, placed it on 1mm packers and marked the cut line with the laser. When you turn it back it's bang on:

 

 

 

(I should add I can't tile to save my life! Up until then the wall boarding was all perfectly square 😂). 

Edited August 18, 2024 by Onoff

[jayc89]

I did floor first in the downstairs W/C and it looks spot on. Not sure why they suggest doing walls first for a wet room... 

[Chanmenie]

  On 18/08/2024 at 13:17, nod said:

Yes

Never tile the floor before the wall on any tiling job 

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Why’s that ?

it seems most tile the floor first 

[nod]

  On 19/08/2024 at 07:05, Chanmenie said:

Why’s that ?

it seems most tile the floor first 

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Most definitely don’t 

There’s a number of reasons 

The first one being that the floor would be damaged marked or stained 

Also if anything is likely to move it’s the floor Chipping the bottoms of the wall tiles 

Also if the floor is running out which most are It’s neater to do the walls first 

[Vijay]

I fitted one of these for my parents and I'd never fit one again!  They look amazing but weren't well made and Abacus couldn't care less. A year or so down the line, the plastic guttering/drain cracked and leaked. I had to break the ceiling from underneath to fix it which was an absolute headache

[Onoff]

If you do floor first then the wall tiles come down onto them. A much better detail in terms of waterproofing and no horrible grout line at the edge where the floor and wall meet. 

[Onoff]

  On 19/08/2024 at 08:11, Vijay said:

I fitted one of these for my parents and I'd never fit one again!  They look amazing but weren't well made and Abacus couldn't care less. A year or so down the line, the plastic guttering/drain cracked and leaked. I had to break the ceiling from underneath to fix it which was an absolute headache

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I cast my floor to falls in the wet room corner and it's stayed perfect. Took some working out along with the Geberit wall drain. I'd do it again in a heartbeat but next time use a tile levelling system.

 

 

[jayc89]

  On 19/08/2024 at 08:11, Vijay said:

I fitted one of these for my parents and I'd never fit one again!  They look amazing but weren't well made and Abacus couldn't care less. A year or so down the line, the plastic guttering/drain cracked and leaked. I had to break the ceiling from underneath to fix it which was an absolute headache

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I had to send the first tray back because it was damaged around the drain. If it's not supported well from below I can see there being plenty of flex around it. 

[nod]

  On 18/08/2024 at 19:38, Onoff said:

I did floor first then protected the floor with Correx. I then used a homemade tile levelling system to place the second tile up.

 

 

For the bottom tile I turned it over, placed it on 1mm packers and marked the cut line with the laser. When you turn it back it's bang on:

 

 

 

(I should add I can't tile to save my life! Up until then the wall boarding was all perfectly square 😂). 

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Looks good to me 

[Onoff]

  On 19/08/2024 at 10:14, nod said:

Looks good to me 

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You're too kind. Up close you could hang your coat on the walls. Boy did I learn a lot doing it though.

[Conor]

  On 18/08/2024 at 11:25, jayc89 said:

I'm using one of these linear wet room trays - https://www.drawabath.co.uk/abacus-elements-1800-x-900mm-infinity-level-single-fall-wetroom-shower-tray-kit-1000mm-offset-linear-drain.html - in the instructions it recommends tiling the walls before the floor for better water run off. 

 

Do I need to do that for the entire room or just the wall behind the drain? 

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We've one of those. They're shite. Base is soft, ours was deformed and a pain to install. Barely any fall on it and if water goes past a certain point, it pools in the corner. Tiler did best he could.

[jayc89]

  On 19/08/2024 at 12:01, Conor said:

We've one of those. They're shite. Base is soft, ours was deformed and a pain to install. Barely any fall on it and if water goes past a certain point, it pools in the corner. Tiler did best he could.

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The first one we had delivered was similar, so I rejected it. A second one arrived and seems much better, albeit bowed when I fixed it down on a bed of adhesive. Some additional weight whilst it was setting seemed to sort that out though. 

 

These comments aren't sounding too promising though!

[Vijay]

  On 19/08/2024 at 10:08, jayc89 said:

 

I had to send the first tray back because it was damaged around the drain. If it's not supported well from below I can see there being plenty of flex around it. 

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Yep but I did timberwork to support it, but it still failed

[Vijay]

  On 19/08/2024 at 17:12, jayc89 said:

 

The first one we had delivered was similar, so I rejected it. A second one arrived and seems much better, albeit bowed when I fixed it down on a bed of adhesive. Some additional weight whilst it was setting seemed to sort that out though. 

 

These comments aren't sounding too promising though!

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exactly how I installed it, used blocks to weigh it all down when installing it. 

[Chanmenie]

  On 19/08/2024 at 07:43, nod said:

Most definitely don’t 

There’s a number of reasons 

The first one being that the floor would be damaged marked or stained 

Also if anything is likely to move it’s the floor Chipping the bottoms of the wall tiles 

Also if the floor is running out which most are It’s neater to do the walls first 

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Well fortunately for me my floor is concrete so won’t be moving, and it is very level, I was thinking of doing floor first and covering it with Protec sheets as I agree with the possibility of it getting damaged