jumbletons Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 Me again. Dreaded planning permission. Can’t get a straight answer on this! Planning department never answer the phone or just say “put in a planning advice request”… New individual STP. About 5m from the house. One installer says I’ll need planning, but with various delays their end + 6w for PP, that’ll mean I won’t get to installing my new system for at least 4-5months! The other installer swears blind I don’t need PP, only building control, and that they do this day in day out (I know it’s annoying when customers question things, but my neighbours WILL make as much trouble as possible so I need everything to be by the book). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 You don’t need planning permission Im installing one for a neighbor and have just got BC involved 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 58 minutes ago, nod said: You don’t need planning permission Im installing one for a neighbor and have just got BC involved +1, only building control. Planning will tell you that you do to get paid for an application they don’t need . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbletons Posted August 12 Author Share Posted August 12 29 minutes ago, joe90 said: +1, only building control. Planning will tell you that you do to get paid for an application they don’t need . Oh sneaky!! The company who said o don’t need it have been excellent, are very experienced and been around for ages with loads of good reviews so I don’t think they can be wrong! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotusBuild Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 The whole "planning advice request" is a con trick to collect unnecessary fees from unwarranted members of the public 🤑 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 1 hour ago, BotusBuild said: The whole "planning advice request" is a con trick to collect unnecessary fees from unwarranted members of the public 🤑 Yep Amazing how they get away with charging for nonsense advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbletons Posted August 12 Author Share Posted August 12 2 hours ago, BotusBuild said: The whole "planning advice request" is a con trick to collect unnecessary fees from unwarranted members of the public 🤑 Yes!! I had the same dilemma with solar panels on my garage, nobody answers the phone and when they do they can’t give advice over the phone. You can’t simply ask if something needs planning permission without having to pay! Money maker for them yes but also money saver as they don’t need staff to be available on the phones to answer such queries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crooksey Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 The only time planning is needed is when you are building a new property, or knocking down an existing and replacing it. Under the new dwelling plans a new wastewater plant *may* be conditioned as a pre-start condition, under this you will need to submit percolation tests and drainage design to be approved by the planners. Some times simply stating "new package treatment plant and drainage filed to be installed" and this is sufficient. If you are just refurbishing an existing property, you meet the general binding rules and the plant will only be serving one property, then planning is not needed (but you will need building control). Depending on the design of the discharge of the new plant, you may need Environment Agency approval. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy_wafer Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 6 minutes ago, crooksey said: "new package treatment plant" Exactly what we stated on our replacement dwelling, BCO not particularly bothered, only that it was required distance from property. If I was staying in the bungalow and swapping out the septic tank, I'd just crack on and do it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 Look at the General Binding Rules carefully. If you meet those regulations then that's doing it 'by the book ' Our BCO could not have been less interested. Annoying to pay for a professional's disinterest. But hey ho..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 9 hours ago, ToughButterCup said: Look at the General Binding Rules carefully. Is this them. https://www.gov.uk/guidance/general-binding-rules-small-sewage-discharge-to-a-surface-water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbletons Posted August 14 Author Share Posted August 14 On 13/08/2024 at 09:23, crooksey said: The only time planning is needed is when you are building a new property, or knocking down an existing and replacing it. Under the new dwelling plans a new wastewater plant *may* be conditioned as a pre-start condition, under this you will need to submit percolation tests and drainage design to be approved by the planners. Some times simply stating "new package treatment plant and drainage filed to be installed" and this is sufficient. If you are just refurbishing an existing property, you meet the general binding rules and the plant will only be serving one property, then planning is not needed (but you will need building control). Depending on the design of the discharge of the new plant, you may need Environment Agency approval. Fantastic thanks so much, this actually makes sense hoorah!! Just the info I needed 😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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