Nickfromwales Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Eric said: Not to derail the thread but do you have any photos of this Nick? I have a kitchen & family room 10m x 7m with double JJI joists @ 400centres, I was actually wondering about fitting plywood before plasterboard? This is a pic of my current MBC TF project, and this shows the counter-battens that MBC installed, perpendicular to the joists above (hidden by the membrane but you can see where the membrane is quilted where it was first stapled to them). This extra 'bracing' is achieved just as simply as affixing 25x50mm counter-battens (larger of the 2 two common roofing battens) to the underside of the bottom chord. There's zero rocket-science 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Eric said: family room Maybe consider doing the same cheat, but instead of the timbers you can use resilient bars? That will tighten up the joists, just enough (you don't need to go mad), and offer a '2-birds 1 stone' upgrade and gain some additional acoustic control. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfun Posted July 2, 2023 Author Share Posted July 2, 2023 Please forgive this potentially noddy question but do I need a specific type of screw to attach the GL8 to the timber frame? Or do I pilot hole the track and then just use standard timber screws? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyT Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 You get screws with a drill tip, so you don’t pre drill google gyproc screws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfun Posted July 3, 2023 Author Share Posted July 3, 2023 8 hours ago, TonyT said: You get screws with a drill tip, so you don’t pre drill google gyproc screws Thanks. Did that and found these on Screwfix which I’ve ordered. https://www.screwfix.com/p/easydrive-pz-wafer-self-tapping-screws-8ga-x-3-4-100-pack/6553h seem the same thing as the Gyproc ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfun Posted July 3, 2023 Author Share Posted July 3, 2023 19 hours ago, TonyT said: You get screws with a drill tip, so you don’t pre drill google gyproc screws I bought these from Screwfix https://www.screwfix.com/p/easydrive-pz-wafer-self-tapping-screws-8ga-x-1-2-100-pack/8979h and they do the job but they're quite hard to get to screw in! I need to apply quite a bit of pressure which is tricky when you're up a ladder trying to hold a GL1 channel and the GL12 bracket and a screw and the drill! would the 'official' Gyproc screws be any easier? https://www.jewson.co.uk/p/gypframe-wafer-head-drywall-screw-fixings-13mm-l-chrome-PRTBG692# or would they be exactly the same as the Easydrive ones from SF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 The official ones tend to be better. Sharper points and fins. Its worth having a few quality heads too. Boarders go through a lot so it must be important, and that's why you can buy a big pack of them. 25 dewalts. How flash is that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfun Posted July 3, 2023 Author Share Posted July 3, 2023 58 minutes ago, saveasteading said: The official ones tend to be better. Sharper points and fins. Its worth having a few quality heads too. Boarders go through a lot so it must be important, and that's why you can buy a big pack of them. 25 dewalts. How flash is that? I have new Dewalt heads. Will see if I can get some Gyproc screws local tomorrow morning. Although I guess I can make a start on a different room and wait for mail order delivery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfun Posted July 6, 2023 Author Share Posted July 6, 2023 (edited) not bad for a first effort even if I do say so myself. Edited July 6, 2023 by Thorfun 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 That hanger system seems to have made the job easier than with timber. Quite pleasing on the old OCD, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 On 03/07/2023 at 21:18, Thorfun said: they do the job but they're quite hard to get to screw in! I need to apply quite a bit of pressure You need some 💪💪💪💪💪💪 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfun Posted July 6, 2023 Author Share Posted July 6, 2023 4 hours ago, Nickfromwales said: That hanger system seems to have made the job easier than with timber. Quite pleasing on the old OCD, lol. yeah. it was really simple. I'm definitely an MF convert for ceilings! yet to try walls though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfun Posted July 6, 2023 Author Share Posted July 6, 2023 3 hours ago, pocster said: You need some 💪💪💪💪💪💪 the official Gyproc screws were better but the new Dewalt Drywall screwdriver makes it a doddle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfun Posted July 8, 2023 Author Share Posted July 8, 2023 (edited) qq. I've made the shadow gap similar to how @MortarThePoint drew it. how would I finish off the plasterboard edge that forms the shadow gap (circled in red in the drawing taken from @MortarThePoint's drawing) it's just raw plasterboard with no covering. I need something on the end to 'finish' it as surely can't just leave it as open plasterboard!! Edited July 8, 2023 by Thorfun added photo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfun Posted July 8, 2023 Author Share Posted July 8, 2023 19 minutes ago, Thorfun said: qq. I've made the shadow gap similar to how @MortarThePoint drew it. how would I finish off the plasterboard edge that forms the shadow gap (circled in red in the drawing taken from @MortarThePoint's drawing) it's just raw plasterboard with no covering. I need something on the end to 'finish' it as surely can't just leave it as open plasterboard!! ok. so it's called an edge bead! available in metal or plastic https://www.ccfltd.co.uk/plastering-beads-and-mesh/british-gypsum-gyproc-drywall-metal-edge-bead-12-5mm-x-2400mm/p/850434 https://www.ccfltd.co.uk/plastering-beads-and-mesh/british-gypsum-gyproc-drywall-plastic-edge-bead-12-5mm-x-3000mm/p/850000 https://www.ccfltd.co.uk/plastering-beads-and-mesh/expamet-plasterboard-edging-bead-13mm-x-3000mm/p/987960 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 You’re like me . Ask the question then use Google to answer your own question. That’s the sign of an expert self builder for sure . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy_wafer Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Thorfun said: qq. I've made the shadow gap similar to how @MortarThePoint drew it. how would I finish off the plasterboard edge that forms the shadow gap (circled in red in the drawing taken from @MortarThePoint's drawing) it's just raw plasterboard with no covering. I need something on the end to 'finish' it as surely can't just leave it as open plasterboard!! Look's good, You putting shadow gap in every room? The MD at my work has just had a place built, no self building there, has shadow gap along the floor, so no skirting, but coloured LED strips lighting the way. His daughter who will inherit has got it all connected up with sensors, showed me a video, looks good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfun Posted July 8, 2023 Author Share Posted July 8, 2023 (edited) 40 minutes ago, crispy_wafer said: Look's good, You putting shadow gap in every room? In the kids rooms, tv room and around a canopy over our bed. It’s definitely not as easy as just boarding straight to the wall! Edited July 8, 2023 by Thorfun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfun Posted July 11, 2023 Author Share Posted July 11, 2023 On 06/07/2023 at 17:39, Thorfun said: not bad for a first effort even if I do say so myself. and now with the void filled with 100mm Rockwool RWA45. all ready for boarding. 🙂 now I need to figure out how to build the dropped ceiling canopy over our bed! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 50 minutes ago, Thorfun said: ceiling canopy over our bed! Don’t forget the hidden camera 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 10 minutes ago, pocster said: Don’t forget the hidden camera 😉 Or not hidden 😉😉😉😉😉😉 - only friends in your windowless / sound proof dungeon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfun Posted July 11, 2023 Author Share Posted July 11, 2023 1 minute ago, pocster said: Or not hidden 😉😉😉😉😉😉 - only friends in your windowless / sound proof dungeon I can’t copy you with everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Thorfun said: I can’t copy you with everything Yeah , that’s true . You’re not equipped; like me …… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfun Posted July 11, 2023 Author Share Posted July 11, 2023 1 minute ago, pocster said: Yeah , that’s true . You’re not equipped; like me …… 🤫 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 30 minutes ago, Thorfun said: 🤫 Yeah yeah ; bit of bs . I’ve seen the photo your SWMBO sent me …. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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