Drellingore Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 'ello folks, Does anyone have any resources that they can recommend for choosing trees, or good 3D landscape design software that could use a drone scan as a starting point? I've got 3 acres in which to start planting a forager's garden (think of it like a chaotic underplanted orchard) whilst I wait for planning to go through on the adjacent barn conversion. The field in which the planting will take place is where all the good views are from the property, so I need to think about lines of sight, height and spread of different trees, all that jazz. A lot of resources that I find online for choose plants are much more, err... 'Aesthetically-minded' than I need. I'm not an arty sort (that's the missus' job), I just need to make sure that I'm blocking lines of sight when I want to, and not when I don't. Additionally it'd be great to get some recommendations on the bewildering myriad of 3D garden design tools out there. I'm reasonably nerdy (ex-programmer), so don't mind learning technical things. Any suggestions would be most gratefully received. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Having been in the tree business for 30 odd years, I would go for a walk around your local area and look at what sits naturally around there. Get a good tree id book and see what would fit in with the task you need it to perform. Tall and thin to hide a telegraph pole. Big and spreading to block out the nosey neighbour. What is good for wildlife, don’t forget hedges, you get far more living in a hedge than most trees. Try and stick to indigenous, and if you plant any conifers for hedging stick to western red cedar. If you plant any leylandii you need a swift kick in the gonads. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Punter Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 There are lots of garden designers who will do the work for a very small fee. I once had a garden designed and was very impressed by the plant knowledge and the the design. She did the drawing by hand and wrote out the planting list. I could not have done it myself but I learnt a lot about plants and shrubs and where they like to be. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twice round the block Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Barcham Trees & Majestic Trees both have very good Web sites which includes mature size and soil conditions for different species etc. I've purchased 8 Trees from Majestic over a two year period and all are going well, even after the scorching summer we had. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilly Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Lots of councils are offering free trees/hedging this winter, probably not edibles for your forest garden but might help on the boundary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drellingore Posted November 22, 2022 Author Share Posted November 22, 2022 57 minutes ago, Jilly said: Lots of councils are offering free trees/hedging this winter, probably not edibles for your forest garden but might help on the boundary. Ooh, how comes? I haven't watched the news since April 2021, so I generally have no idea what's going on in the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesP Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 If you are interested in growing both trees and agricultural / horticultural crops on the same piece of land have a look at the link below. https://www.agroforestry.co.uk We planted a thousand trees as soon as we moved onto our plot 12 years ago with a subsidy from Woodland Trust. Avoid the BBC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drellingore Posted November 23, 2022 Author Share Posted November 23, 2022 11 hours ago, JamesP said: Avoid the BBC. But the kids like Strictly! Sorry, I'm not sure what BBC stands for in this context - can you shine a light on my ignorance please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesP Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Drellingore said: But the kids like Strictly! Sorry, I'm not sure what BBC stands for in this context - can you shine a light on my ignorance please? HDD check required! 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drellingore Posted November 23, 2022 Author Share Posted November 23, 2022 9 minutes ago, JamesP said: HDD check required! 😉 Ha, I know what it means in that context! Getting back to SFW topics, I'd forgotten that I'd mentioned news. I was thinking there was some forestry organisation called the BBC or something! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilly Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 22 hours ago, Drellingore said: Ooh, how comes? I haven't watched the news since April 2021, so I generally have no idea what's going on in the world An environmental initiative. You could look on your local council website to see if they are doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger440 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 On 22/11/2022 at 16:56, Russell griffiths said: Having been in the tree business for 30 odd years, I would go for a walk around your local area and look at what sits naturally around there. Get a good tree id book and see what would fit in with the task you need it to perform. Tall and thin to hide a telegraph pole. Big and spreading to block out the nosey neighbour. What is good for wildlife, don’t forget hedges, you get far more living in a hedge than most trees. Try and stick to indigenous, and if you plant any conifers for hedging stick to western red cedar. If you plant any leylandii you need a swift kick in the gonads. Im at a similar point. However, walking around the area reveals very many Sitka and the like! Theres a shelter belt to the west of our propery, all sitka or similar. My boundary runs along it. Im concscious that at some point, these will be harvested. So i want to plant something in front on my side. But what to do? Clearly conifers will be more effective as they are ever green, but its hardly native! Why do you say western red cedar specifically? Sorry for thread hijack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 30 minutes ago, Roger440 said: Clearly conifers will be more effective as they are ever green, but its hardly native! Larch is a conifer but deciduous. Scots Pine, Juniper and Yew are native conifers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 16 hours ago, Roger440 said: Im at a similar point. However, walking around the area reveals very many Sitka and the like! Theres a shelter belt to the west of our propery, all sitka or similar. My boundary runs along it. Im concscious that at some point, these will be harvested. So i want to plant something in front on my side. But what to do? Clearly conifers will be more effective as they are ever green, but its hardly native! Why do you say western red cedar specifically? Sorry for thread hijack Western red cedar is one of very few conifers that have internal buds and growth, as well as being able to re shoot from a cut end. So all these overgrown conifers you see that are brown and dead in the centre, well you don’t get that with WRC. If you forget to prune them for a year and then need to give them a slightly harder hack than normal they will re shoot from the cut ends. Making for a far nicer and thicker screen. Nicer green foliage with a silvery tint. Nice smell. 100% better than a Leland cypress. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Russell griffiths said: 100% better than a Leland cypress Interesting. Sounds better than 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drellingore Posted November 24, 2022 Author Share Posted November 24, 2022 18 hours ago, Roger440 said: Sorry for thread hijack No worries, I'm such a newbie that I can't add value to anyone's conversations, so if I inadvertently create a space for a chat that other people benefit from, that's a bonus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markc Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 On 23/11/2022 at 10:57, Drellingore said: Ha, I know what it means in that context! Getting back to SFW topics, I'd forgotten that I'd mentioned news. I was thinking there was some forestry organisation called the BBC or something! There is the APF - Assos. Of Prof Foresters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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