GrantMcscott Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Hi I have had a quote for 50m2 and 10 liniear metres and the instalation is 15 to 20 days so £5,000 to £6,500 not sure if this sounds a bit excessive or not. Has anyone had this done and does it sound right after buying the product id is going to work out about £13,000. After that there is wood clad and render to do. It seems to be the most expecnsive bit of the house the outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radian Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 That's quite a premium over the price of genuine walling stone. Last time a built a wall using cropped sandstone (roughly 120mm deep by random width and heights) coverage was 4.5m2 per ton and each ton delivered was £150 so I'd expect your elevation to require £1.6K for the materials. You appear to be talking about £5 to £6.5K installation labour, and £7k for the slips! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantMcscott Posted September 11, 2022 Author Share Posted September 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Radian said: That's quite a premium over the price of genuine walling stone. Last time a built a wall using cropped sandstone (roughly 120mm deep by random width and heights) coverage was 4.5m2 per ton and each ton delivered was £150 so I'd expect your elevation to require £1.6K for the materials. You appear to be talking about £5 to £6.5K installation labour, and £7k for the slips! yes that is what I am getting quoted slips are 6.3K that includes all the glue and pointing and between 5.5k to 6.5k instalation 15 to 20 days effort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andehh Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 What slips are you going with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantMcscott Posted September 11, 2022 Author Share Posted September 11, 2022 58 minutes ago, Andehh said: What slips are you going with? Was going for random rubble stone effect but may need to go for a z tile to reduce cost but still will have problems finding someone to do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radian Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Sounds like a 'feature' wall. Are you cladding over concrete blocks as I saw in your porch topic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantMcscott Posted September 12, 2022 Author Share Posted September 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Radian said: Sounds like a 'feature' wall. Are you cladding over concrete blocks as I saw in your porch topic? Hi Yes it will be on concreat block. I have been looking at the z stone and z clad but not sure how hard it is to do myself. As I am struggling to find someone to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radian Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Just now, GrantMcscott said: Hi Yes it will be on concreat block. I have been looking at the z stone and z clad but not sure how hard it is to do myself. As I am struggling to find someone to do it. Only once used brick slips. Didn't find it very satisfying or easy. Built a few random stone walls using cropped stone and found it satisfyingly easy. Do you not have the space around this elevation for a real stone finish? Our walls are concrete blocks forming a standard cavity wall with a random stone 'cladding' tied to the inner blocks with SS mesh. Adds about 130mm to the wall thickness. Obvs. needs space on the foundation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantMcscott Posted September 12, 2022 Author Share Posted September 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Radian said: Only once used brick slips. Didn't find it very satisfying or easy. Built a few random stone walls using cropped stone and found it satisfyingly easy. Do you not have the space around this elevation for a real stone finish? Our walls are concrete blocks forming a standard cavity wall with a random stone 'cladding' tied to the inner blocks with SS mesh. Adds about 130mm to the wall thickness. Obvs. needs space on the foundation. Would need to check do not think the doundation is there but would that not make it even more expensive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone West Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 23 hours ago, GrantMcscott said: not sure if this sounds a bit excessive or not. Difficult to compare, but nine years ago we had the plinth covered with brick slips, after I had fitted the board and steel mesh. We also had the rest of the building clad with cedar and it took two men for the cedar cladding and one man for the brick slips. It took around two weeks and the labour was £4500. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantMcscott Posted September 12, 2022 Author Share Posted September 12, 2022 9 minutes ago, Gone West said: Difficult to compare, but nine years ago we had the plinth covered with brick slips, after I had fitted the board and steel mesh. We also had the rest of the building clad with cedar and it took two men for the cedar cladding and one man for the brick slips. It took around two weeks and the labour was £4500. Where is the ceadart clad from it look realy good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone West Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 8 minutes ago, GrantMcscott said: Where is the ceadart clad from it look realy good? It was Canadian cedar supplied by the local timber yard. The grade was number 2 clear and better, so had very few knots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radian Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 7 hours ago, GrantMcscott said: Would need to check do not think the doundation is there but would that not make it even more expensive? Not necessarily. The less processing a product goes through the cheaper it is. Ring around some local stone quarries and get the price for "cropped walling stone" per ton delivered and tell them the dimensions of your wall. They guillotine off rocks to give you one dependable dimension. If you want to trade time for money, watch some youtubes on building stone walls. I'd definitely say it's much easier for a beginner to get a decent looking result than trying to lay bricks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMo Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 I purchased 142m2 from real stone cladding, directly adhered to Durisol blocks. Took about 3.5 weeks (full time) for me to install, with wife helping out. Having never done it before, would expect a couple of guys to do the same amount way quicker. Assume you will scaffold also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantMcscott Posted September 12, 2022 Author Share Posted September 12, 2022 11 minutes ago, JohnMo said: I purchased 142m2 from real stone cladding, directly adhered to Durisol blocks. Took about 3.5 weeks (full time) for me to install, with wife helping out. Having never done it before, would expect a couple of guys to do the same amount way quicker. Assume you will scaffold also. Look great, The concern I have is if I start it and make a mess of it then know one will fix it. I think I could do it and think the most dificult bit will be the window reveals and ther is 3 to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelvin Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Dressed sandstone from a quarry near me is £120/tonne delivered. There’s another place where you need to collect it yourself that’s £60/tonne. Definitely shop around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andehh Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 That looks OK 4 hours ago, JohnMo said: I purchased 142m2 from real stone cladding, directly adhered to Durisol blocks. Took about 3.5 weeks (full time) for me to install, with wife helping out. Having never done it before, would expect a couple of guys to do the same amount way quicker. Assume you will scaffold also. That looks good, have you got any more pics of that timber cladding on the underside of the apex? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMo Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 16 minutes ago, Andehh said: That looks OK That looks good, have you got any more pics of that timber cladding on the underside of the apex? Sorry not the best photo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andehh Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Thanks, that looks lovely! What wood did you use, how did you get that colour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMo Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 The wood is Scottish larch. Colour is natural, at the moment its untreated. The front of the house looks almost the same and its treated with cedar oil. The rear gable are faces North east so doesn't get the sun, so low on the priority list to coat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone West Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 11 hours ago, JohnMo said: The rear gable are faces North east so doesn't get the sun, so low on the priority list to coat. We found with our cedar that it is the rain that washes out the colour more than the sun bleaching it. The north side of the house faded just as much as the other elevations. The only areas that kept any colour were those protected from the rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMo Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 That's interesting, may need to get bum in gear and get it treated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantMcscott Posted September 20, 2022 Author Share Posted September 20, 2022 @JohnMo How hard was it to do your stone clading and how did you go about doing the window reveals as considering doing it myself with the clading you mentioned or zclad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMo Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Pretty easy, just takes a while, when you're finished, your up to speed. You need some to cut with, I used a 115mm angle grinder and a smallish mitre saw both with diamond cutters. A trowel, and slotted trowel like you use for tiling. My windows were flush to the outer surface, so had no reveals,to speak of. I used a diamond cutter in a 115mm angle grinder and mitre saw, to give a nice clean cut on the stone to form a return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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