joe90 Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 Due to local concerns about thefts in our area I want to put a floodlight on my workshop which is nearest the gate, it is however 15m away. Screwfix give their PIR range as 10m but I cannot find any info on other suppliers with a greater range. Anyone out there in builders land come across one that will do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radian Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 There are so called "long range PIR detectors" such as: https://www.electricaldirect.co.uk/product/steinel-sensiq-s-long-range-20m-300°-pir-sensor-black-109229 I'm sure you could get a better price than that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrerahill Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 43 minutes ago, joe90 said: Due to local concerns about thefts in our area I want to put a floodlight on my workshop which is nearest the gate, it is however 15m away. Screwfix give their PIR range as 10m but I cannot find any info on other suppliers with a greater range. Anyone out there in builders land come across one that will do? Wire two PIR's onto it, or get a long range unit from CP electronics, or microwave, etc. there are options. You could even use 2 Shellys, PIR near you, which triggers the input terminals on the shelly to turn on for x time and then use the remote shelly relay to switch on, wire that in after the local PIR switched live, and if that PIR triggers too, it will bring on the light. That is how multi-PIR circuits work, basically they all just switch live onto a commoned switch live and the light(s) will stay on until the last PIR switches off. They Shelly option would also give you an option to WiFi switch your flood on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted July 8, 2022 Author Share Posted July 8, 2022 Being a Luddite I had to google “Shelly”, wifi does not extend that far either. I don’t understand how 2 PIR,s can extend the range (length) 🤔 surely someone must make a simple longer range PIR fir a resonance price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vfrdave Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 Bit more of an expensive option but GJD do very good PIR solutions that will work 30m+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted July 8, 2022 Author Share Posted July 8, 2022 Well this is more like it. https://www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/intruder-alarm-c-36/movement-detectors-c-36_116/all-c-36_116_37/honeywell-pir-long-range-motion-sensor-30m-p-4902.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radian Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 14 minutes ago, joe90 said: Well this is more like it. https://www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/intruder-alarm-c-36/movement-detectors-c-36_116/all-c-36_116_37/honeywell-pir-long-range-motion-sensor-30m-p-4902.html But that's an indoor one. Wouldn't last past the first rainstorm! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radian Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 (edited) https://www.amazon.co.uk/Steinel-Infrared-Movement-Detector-Swiveling/dp/B002J93FU2/ref=pd_lpo_1?pd_rd_i=B002J93FU2&psc=1 Another Steinel with a little bit less range but better price. Actually that's a very keen price. Toolstation want over £60 for it! Edited July 8, 2022 by Radian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted July 8, 2022 Author Share Posted July 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Radian said: But that's an indoor one. Wouldn't last past the first rainstorm! I have a window I could point it out of 🤷♂️, advantage of a PIR is they come with night/day sensor . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radian Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 1 hour ago, joe90 said: I have a window I could point it out of 🤷♂️, advantage of a PIR is they come with night/day sensor . PIR won't work behind glass. Glass blocks the IR. And being an indoor (burglar alarm) sensor - it has no light sensor. There's several reasons it's so cheap. Both outdoor sensors have light sensors and adjustable timers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 950nm IR if you don’t want it to ‘glow’ I.e so it’s not visible. Limits your choice more and the IR range is less . Depends if you want to deter or catch . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJNewton Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, pocster said: 950nm IR if you don’t want it to ‘glow’ I.e so it’s not visible PIRs don't emit any IR (the P = Passive). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, MJNewton said: PIRs don't emit any IR (the P = Passive). Yes sorry - I meant IR on a cctv 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Just now, pocster said: Yes sorry - I meant IR on a cctv Mis read the original post - thought @joe90 was asking about cameras 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted July 9, 2022 Author Share Posted July 9, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, pocster said: Mis read the original post - thought @joe90 was asking about cameras Trouble with cameras is you have a picture of the scrote that took your stuff, but it’s still gone 🤷♂️, since you mention cameras what about these as a deterrent? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/363806147100? Edited July 9, 2022 by joe90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 2 hours ago, joe90 said: Trouble with cameras is you have a picture of the scrote that took your stuff, but it’s still gone 🤷♂️, since you mention cameras what about these as a deterrent? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/363806147100? Yeah as a deterrent you can’t really go wrong for 15 quid . Personally ( as you know ) I have real cameras recording 24/7 . Probably does act as a deterrent to any theft but far more use to play “ spot the wanker neighbor “ 😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted July 9, 2022 Author Share Posted July 9, 2022 18 minutes ago, pocster said: spot the wanker neighbor “ 😁 Luckily I don’t have any of those, nice bunch here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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