DeeJunFan Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 Hi guys, Have the spark coming back in the next few days to finish off internal 1st fix and he was asking some questions that i'm not 100% about. Firstly is the Gate entry wiring requirements? So what wires do i need at my gate for gate automation (well into the future) and a Keypad/Video doorbell at the gate? Secondly was the CCTV system. I would prefer to go with an IP cam system but would like to be able to view the cameras on an internal TV? He wasn't 100% on how to set it up so would anyone have a rough idea of what cables i need for that? I am going CAT 6 and will power the Cameras POE. Would i just need to take an Video output from the PC and have it shown on a TV via say HDMI to CAT 6 Balun? Thanks in advance Damian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le-cerveau Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 Gates?? CCTV, I currently have 2 IP POE CCTV cameras at my sight that I can remotely log into, actually I log into the NVR that they are connected to and can stream/playback... Today I was watching the Gas men disconnect the mains. The cameras are POE so cat 5/6 works, they plug into the NVR but a suitably powered switch would work. I watch on a PC/ipad, to watch on a TV you could either connect a PC/ipad to the TV via HDMI or if the TV is cleaver enough (smart) it may be able to stream directly from the camera/NVR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 Cat6 needs to be solid copper for PoE and not CCA. Depending on your gate company of choice, it will probably be 5 or 8 wires for the intercom unit assuming you want to be able to speak to the person at the other end - this is standard telephone or CAT5 for anything up to 100m normally. Most gate controllers have a 24v output somewhere on them that allows you to power additional items such as the intercom - the house end is usually the "slave" unit so needs nothing more than the Cat5/6 from the gate. PoE cameras can't directly interface to a normal TV even with HDMI input. You need a recorder / controller that collates the camera images and then connect that to the TV. I know some of the new Smart TVs have an internet browser capability which would allow you to see the camera feed from the controller. So back to your original query - you will need an SWA power cable of suitable sizing (ask the sparky...) and then I would run 3 CAT6 cables to the gate to give you redundancy. Suggest these are in a duct with a drawstring just in case you want to add another in the future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeJunFan Posted May 2, 2017 Author Share Posted May 2, 2017 Thanks for that. So the best option for the CCTV would be a nice Smart TV. and SWA + 3 CAT6 for the gates. Champion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSharp01 Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 (edited) Smart TV if you want to watch on the TV or you could just purchase a suitable smart DVD / Blue ray player as these connect to your TV and also have the browser facility - check before you buy, and they are cheaper than a TV. Of course if you need an excuse. ..... Edited May 2, 2017 by MikeSharp01 Typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 (edited) As @le-cerveau says you also need an NVR (Network Video Recorder) to control the cameras but they are pretty cheap. This one has HDMI so just plug it into a spare HDMI port on the tv and then the cameras will always be on the same source. NVR I use this Cat5 cable these days as it's nice and easily seen - you can get SWA Cat5/6 but it's eye watering in price ..!! Cat5 Cable Edited May 2, 2017 by PeterW Correct URL.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan52 Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 Goes without saying it has to be a min 55inch oled smart TV with a speaker bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 7 minutes ago, MikeSharp01 said: Smart TV if you want to watch on the TV or you could just purchase a suitable smart DVD / Blue ray player as these connect to your TV and also have the browser facility - check before you buy, and they are cheaper than a TV. Of course if you need an excuse. ..... Take care that it can view the feed you want to see. I have a Smart TV and it is quite limited e.g. I cannot view internet video on the TV. And typing in addresses is a little awkward. Ferdinand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSharp01 Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 Simple solution is get a laptop / ipad with HDMI output and all viewing is sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddal Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 2 hours ago, Ferdinand said: I have a Smart TV and it is quite limited Agreed. The browsers built into smart tvs are a bit rubbish I fear. Using one of these to view an IP cameras native web page might be a stretch - e.g. those cameras often want you to install some extra software (ActiveX control etc) so be able to view video in the browser and I doubt that would work on a smart tv. As others said, the best solution would be to connect the camera to an NVR which would give you video output - or use a laptop/pc instead to do the same thing. I've heard of some people using an Amazon FireTV stick to view IP cameras on a TV by running an android app. This could work well I guess - but will take a bit of setting up. - reddal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan52 Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 Could you run vlc player on the fire stick and from this type in the IP address of your camera. Use it like that to watch streams of football and works a treat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 That NVR I linked earlier has a HDMI output - just add a simple cable link to the TV as most have 3 or 4 HDMI inputs which mean you can either PinP the feed or just change source to view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 Would a generic Android box work as a "better" browser? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddal Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Onoff said: Would a generic Android box work as a "better" browser? An android box would have a lot more flexibility in terms of browser than a smart tv - but you would still have to look into exactly how the IP cameras web page works to see if this would be ok. However there are specialist android apps for viewing IP cameras which should work really well. Again - this kind of solution would take a bit of setting up - an NVR would be easier and have more functionality (recording etc) if you want a ready made solution. Edited May 2, 2017 by reddal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 (edited) You could view it on your phone or iPAD and Google Chrome to the TV using the Google Dongle. Worra Lorra Options. F Edited May 2, 2017 by Ferdinand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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