Pocster Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Sometimes I’m brave with mains electric , sometime I’m not . Want to wire this fancy switch . Current manual switch is just the 2 browns . Where do they go on this new switch though ? ( ‘O’ is the load ? for one of them ?? ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markc Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Do you have a meter or voltage tester? Need to determine which wire is live feed and which goes to light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Yes you will need to determine which of the brown wires is permanent L. Then you will need to connect N to the switch (lucky this is loop at switch wiring) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted September 13, 2021 Author Share Posted September 13, 2021 Ok. So one of those brown is Live so goes to L. I'll stick a meter on it and find out. I'm surprised the electrician did both wires in Brown...... But hasn't he tied the neutrals together ( in the box recess you can see the bound blues ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markc Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Technically they are both live. Turn switch off, 1 will be live, one dead. connect the permanent live to L and the other to O. leave the blues alone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted September 13, 2021 Author Share Posted September 13, 2021 1 minute ago, markc said: Technically they are both live. Turn switch off, 1 will be live, one dead. connect the permanent live to L and the other to O. leave the blues alone Ok boss ( I think that’s what the midget guy said in fantasy island ) . Does the relay switch thing need a neutral though ( to power it ) z wave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, pocster said: I'm surprised the electrician did both wires in Brown...... They’re both live cables ya nugget 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted September 13, 2021 Author Share Posted September 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Nickfromwales said: They’re both live cables ya nugget Yeah I know , I know . I am actually colour blind so can’t tell anyway … ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markc Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, pocster said: Ok boss ( I think that’s what the midget guy said in fantasy island ) . Does the relay switch thing need a neutral though ( to power it ) z wave If you are wanting to add or control anything else then you will need to pick up a neutral as well. the blues may be neutral, but not necessarily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted September 13, 2021 Author Share Posted September 13, 2021 Just now, markc said: If you are wanting to add or control anything else then you will need to pick up a neutral as well. the blues may be neutral, but not necessarily. Yeah they’re neutral . So if say I stick a wago in there , tie those 2 blues together then add a 3rd to go to the z wave wall switch controller I’m all good ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 1 minute ago, pocster said: I am actually colour blind so can’t tell anyway … ? That explains the grout then ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Just now, pocster said: Yeah they’re neutral . So if say I stick a wago in there , tie those 2 blues together then add a 3rd to go to the z wave wall switch controller I’m all good ? Yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted September 13, 2021 Author Share Posted September 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Nickfromwales said: Yup. I’m surprised tbh . Surely the sparky should mark the L from the consumer I.e power in ( if you like ) as opposed to L to the lights ( as they aren’t live until L + L ) . Just seems an easy thing to mark when installing . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, pocster said: I’m surprised tbh . Surely the sparky should mark the L from the consumer I.e power in ( if you like ) as opposed to L to the lights ( as they aren’t live until L + L ) . Just seems an easy thing to mark when installing . It will be, by the fact that the incoming live goes to the terminal C ( common ) and the switch wires to L1 / L2 etc. Now, more importantly, let’s have that chat about colourblind people DIY’ing their own electrical work……… ? lol. My dads engineer was too, and had to keep coming back and forth the office with short off cuts from the vending machine wiring looms asking which colours were which Edited September 13, 2021 by Nickfromwales Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted September 13, 2021 Author Share Posted September 13, 2021 (edited) Balls - can’t undo post Edited September 13, 2021 by pocster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted September 13, 2021 Author Share Posted September 13, 2021 Anyway @Nickfromwales what’s a plumber doing commenting on electrics ? . You on checkAtrade doing that ? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 1 minute ago, pocster said: Anyway @Nickfromwales what’s a plumber doing commenting on electrics ? . You on checkAtrade doing that ? ? Just making sure you don’t fry the ones you love the most…….Zippy, Bungle and George. ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted September 13, 2021 Author Share Posted September 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Nickfromwales said: Just making sure you don’t fry the ones you love the most…….Zippy, Bungle and George. ? Think @Onoff needs help . He’s (expletive deleted)ing about again creating work but never actually doing the work . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Punter Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 5 hours ago, pocster said: Sometimes I’m brave with mains electric , sometime I’m not . Want to wire this fancy switch . Current manual switch is just the 2 browns . Where do they go on this new switch though ? ( ‘O’ is the load ? for one of them ?? ) Another backbox cut out by the drunken pocket squirrel... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted September 13, 2021 Author Share Posted September 13, 2021 11 minutes ago, Mr Punter said: Another backbox cut out by the drunken pocket squirrel... My Dewalt pocket squirrel knife is the best ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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