Light switch wiring

[Pocster]

Sometimes I’m brave with mains electric , sometime I’m not .

Want to wire this fancy switch . Current manual switch is just the 2 browns .

Where do they go on this new switch though ? ( ‘O’ is the load ? for one of them ?? )

[markc]

Do you have a meter or voltage tester? Need to determine which wire is live feed and which goes to light

[ProDave]

Yes you will need to determine which of the brown wires is permanent L.  Then you will need to connect N to the switch (lucky this is loop at switch wiring)

[Pocster]

Ok. So one of those brown is Live so goes to L.

 

I'll stick a meter on it and find out. I'm surprised the electrician did both wires in Brown......

 

But hasn't he tied the neutrals together ( in the box recess you can see the bound blues ).

[markc]

Technically they are both live. Turn switch off, 1 will be live, one dead.

connect the permanent live to L

and the other to O.

leave the blues alone

[Pocster]

1 minute ago, markc said:

Technically they are both live. Turn switch off, 1 will be live, one dead.

connect the permanent live to L

and the other to O.

leave the blues alone

Ok boss ( I think that’s what the midget guy said in fantasy island ) .

Does the relay switch thing need a neutral though ( to power it ) z wave 

[Nickfromwales]

5 minutes ago, pocster said:

I'm surprised the electrician did both wires in Brown......

They’re both live cables ya nugget  

[Pocster]

2 minutes ago, Nickfromwales said:

They’re both live cables ya nugget  

Yeah I know , I know . I am actually colour blind so can’t tell anyway … ?

[markc]

2 minutes ago, pocster said:

Ok boss ( I think that’s what the midget guy said in fantasy island ) .

Does the relay switch thing need a neutral though ( to power it ) z wave 

If you are wanting to add or control anything else then you will need to pick up a neutral as well.

the blues may be neutral, but not necessarily.

[Pocster]

Just now, markc said:

If you are wanting to add or control anything else then you will need to pick up a neutral as well.

the blues may be neutral, but not necessarily.

Yeah they’re neutral . So if say I stick a wago in there , tie those 2 blues together then add a 3rd to go to the z wave wall switch controller I’m all good ? 

[Nickfromwales]

1 minute ago, pocster said: I am actually colour blind so can’t tell anyway … ?

That explains the grout then ! 

[Nickfromwales]

Just now, pocster said:

Yeah they’re neutral . So if say I stick a wago in there , tie those 2 blues together then add a 3rd to go to the z wave wall switch controller I’m all good ? 

Yup. 

[Pocster]

1 minute ago, Nickfromwales said:

Yup. 

I’m surprised tbh . Surely the sparky should mark the L from the consumer I.e power in ( if you like ) as opposed to L to the lights ( as they aren’t live until L + L ) . Just seems an easy thing to mark when installing .

[Nickfromwales]

7 minutes ago, pocster said:

I’m surprised tbh . Surely the sparky should mark the L from the consumer I.e power in ( if you like ) as opposed to L to the lights ( as they aren’t live until L + L ) . Just seems an easy thing to mark when installing .

It will be, by the fact that the incoming live goes to the terminal C ( common ) and the switch wires to L1 / L2 etc. 
 

Now, more importantly, let’s have that chat about colourblind people DIY’ing their own electrical work……… ? lol. 
My dads engineer was too, and had to keep coming back and forth the office with short off cuts from the vending machine wiring looms asking which colours were which  

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[Pocster]

Balls - can’t undo post 

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[Pocster]

Anyway @Nickfromwales what’s a plumber doing commenting on electrics ? . You on checkAtrade doing that ? ? 

[Nickfromwales]

1 minute ago, pocster said:

Anyway @Nickfromwales what’s a plumber doing commenting on electrics ? . You on checkAtrade doing that ? ? 

Just making sure you don’t fry the ones you love the most…….Zippy, Bungle and George. ?

[Pocster]

2 minutes ago, Nickfromwales said:

Just making sure you don’t fry the ones you love the most…….Zippy, Bungle and George. ?

Think @Onoff needs help . He’s (expletive deleted)ing about again creating work but never actually doing the work .

[Mr Punter]

5 hours ago, pocster said:

Sometimes I’m brave with mains electric , sometime I’m not .

Want to wire this fancy switch . Current manual switch is just the 2 browns .

Where do they go on this new switch though ? ( ‘O’ is the load ? for one of them ?? )

 

 

Another backbox cut out by the drunken pocket squirrel...

[Pocster]

11 minutes ago, Mr Punter said:

 

Another backbox cut out by the drunken pocket squirrel...

My Dewalt pocket squirrel knife is the best !