puntloos Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Given all these supply issues, I wonder if someone has drawn up a detailed list of 'what happens when' and then combine it with lead times to get a 'order deadline times' list. Surely at least the timing steps list exists? "If lead time on <item X> is <Y weeks> and I need them on <date> then my deadline to decide and put the order in is <date-Y=deadlinedate> So indeed something like: (completely made up, plz don't critique too much ) Jan 1: setup Jan 7: digger arrives Jan 14: big hole dug Jan 21: Concrete needed March 1: Tiling of the roof starts (so.. I need to decide and order tiles..) May 1: Electrical stuff comes in Sep 1: Bathroom tiling.. Which would mean I can put together a list like: Nov 1: order concrete (for Jan 21) Jan 1: order tiles Mar 1: order electrics Jul 1: Order bathroom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markc Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 I reckon there are far too many variables to have a generic list. your own requirements and expectations, how much work you are doing yourself etc. Type of build, size, location, time of year - these all affect the programme of works. then there is the specialist suppliers, windows, doors etc. Whose lead times can vary widely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Punter Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 It is worth checking to find lead times on the stuff you want, especially if it is not mainstream. Contractors do not want to be waiting around for gear to turn up or trying to work around without it. If you can get some stages planned where you can have a few weeks of slack between, it will help ease the stress, but lengthen the programme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrerahill Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 (edited) 33 minutes ago, puntloos said: Given all these supply issues, I wonder if someone has drawn up a detailed list of 'what happens when' and then combine it with lead times to get a 'order deadline times' list. Surely at least the timing steps list exists? "If lead time on <item X> is <Y weeks> and I need them on <date> then my deadline to decide and put the order in is <date-Y=deadlinedate> So indeed something like: (completely made up, plz don't critique too much ) Jan 1: setup Jan 7: digger arrives Jan 14: big hole dug Jan 21: Concrete needed March 1: Tiling of the roof starts (so.. I need to decide and order tiles..) May 1: Electrical stuff comes in Sep 1: Bathroom tiling.. Which would mean I can put together a list like: Nov 1: order concrete (for Jan 21) Jan 1: order tiles Mar 1: order electrics Jul 1: Order bathroom What is commonly produced for construction projects is a gantt chart. It is more or less what you are talking about, a week by week planner with all the stages and overlaps and sequence etc. all laid into one plan. The issue is, no plan survives first contact. However, they are done, and they are common. They can sometime also list deadlines for things such as material and equipment date and time requirements including when they need to be ordered. More often than not because a Gantt chart may cover 10's of contractors they often leave that contractor up to doing his own ordering to suit his schedule. So in other words if there is a 2 week period programmed in for first fix electrical, then the electrical contractor obviously knows they need to arrive at site on day 1 with some materials to get rolling. Edited August 2, 2021 by Carrerahill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puntloos Posted August 3, 2021 Author Share Posted August 3, 2021 9 hours ago, Carrerahill said: What is commonly produced for construction projects is a gantt chart. It is more or less what you are talking about, a week by week planner with all the stages and overlaps and sequence etc. all laid into one plan. The issue is, no plan survives first contact. However, they are done, and they are common. They can sometime also list deadlines for things such as material and equipment date and time requirements including when they need to be ordered. More often than not because a Gantt chart may cover 10's of contractors they often leave that contractor up to doing his own ordering to suit his schedule. So in other words if there is a 2 week period programmed in for first fix electrical, then the electrical contractor obviously knows they need to arrive at site on day 1 with some materials to get rolling. Thanks @Carrerahill - you are probably right, especially when delivery time estimates turn into unhappy reality I found this one - https://spreadsheetpage.com/gantt-chart/house-construction/ - it seems to be pretty optimistic, but at least it provides me with the order of things! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 order now. roof tiles. bricks. order 3 months before you need it blocks insulation roof trusses windows eveything else leave to last minute sand 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omnibuswoman Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 I'm watching this with interest as now thinking about our build beginning (hopefully) in October. Even for just the workshop we had supply issues - ordered plastic fascia and soffits from a company online. The warehouse contacted me on the delivery date (about 5 days later) saying all they had in stock was one piece of soffit, and nothing else. I ended up cancelling the order as we were finishing up and heading home. Very frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triassic Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 (edited) Our roofer was telling that we recently quoted for a job and the roofing merchant was quoting 26 weeks lead time on the particular tiles the customer wanted. Maybe it would be best to order everything you need to get water tight in one go. Then concentrate on the internals later. Edited August 3, 2021 by Triassic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrerahill Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 3 hours ago, Triassic said: Our roofer was telling that we recently quoted for a job and the roofing merchant was quoting 26 weeks lead time on the particular tiles the customer wanted. Maybe it would be best to order everything you need to get water tight in one go. Then concentrate on the internals later. If the OP has safe secure storage space and money then I agree this would be very prudent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haylingbilly Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 12 hours ago, Dave Jones said: order now. roof tiles. bricks. order 3 months before you need it blocks insulation roof trusses windows eveything else leave to last minute sand Order Services first - can never do too early Windows and external doors - as soon as you can - start now to get all the quotes done with rough sizes, then place firm order as soon as sizes confirmed Roof tiles and bricks asap - can order and put them on hold Kitchen - start designing - takes for ever to finalise Concrete and screed 1-2 weeks before you need it. Any timber - as soon as you know quantities Then as Dave says, everything else last minute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 problem with ordering services early as the quotes last for 90 days on some and you wont be ready for them by then so will have to pay for a re-quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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