Russdl Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 What hinge do I need to allow a wardrobe door to open and close as per the image below? I’m completely whelmed by the choice available, bordering on over whelmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 That’s difficult, initially I thought “kitchen” hinges but they only fit with one piece of side panel, you have two (doubled). Plus they are recessed into the mdf and that is usually min 15mm. Can you not do as below? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russdl Posted January 29, 2021 Author Share Posted January 29, 2021 @joe90 I don’t have the room for hinges as per your diagram, it’s in the loft so limited space, plus if it opens more than 90 degrees it’ll start digging holes in the plaster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russdl Posted January 29, 2021 Author Share Posted January 29, 2021 I was rooting around in the Hafele catalogue where I suspect the answer to my problem lies but I couldn’t decipher it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russdl Posted January 29, 2021 Author Share Posted January 29, 2021 ? with that reaction @joe90 I guess I’m now looking for the ‘paddle shop’ now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 @Russdl, not sure what you can do, with double side panels and single door panel you need a “swinging” hinge, like used fir kitchen cabinets, but as explained above I know of none that do this and my other suggestion won’t fit your loft dimensions. I hope someone can come up with a solution for you. Trying to think “outside the box” you could fit as below and still use hinge idea above. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason L Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Cant you put the door inside of the opening and large architraves on the face of the frame ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone West Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 I made a cupboard in the utility room with louvered doors and it took me ages to work which hinges to use from the Hafele site. I went through all the diagrams showing different overlaps etc and got there in the end. https://www.hafele.co.uk/en/product/concealed-cup-hinge-95-standard-for-up-to-28-mm-thick-doors-full-overlay-mounting-click-on-arm-tiomos/000000fc0001664100010023/#SearchParameter=&Category=pKgKAOsFlooAAAFev2d9OkCL&checkbox_fs_hinges_model=Grass+Tiomos&checkbox_fs_hinges_opening_angle=95&checkbox_fs_hinges_overlay=Full+Overlay&checkbox_fs_hinges_product=Concealed+Cup+Hinges&@P.FF.followSearch=9940&PageNumber=1&OriginalPageSize=12&PageSize=12&Position=2&OrigPos=1356&ProductListSize=3 I used these in the end. https://www.locksonline.com/Concealed-Hinges-133/Grass-TIOMOS-Clip-On-95186-hinge-full-overlay-plus-mounting-68747.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 24 minutes ago, PeterStarck said: used these in the end. Yes but as I said they only work with min 15mm side panel and equal door thickness ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russdl Posted January 29, 2021 Author Share Posted January 29, 2021 @Jason L that’s not a bad idea. It won’t narrow it down too much. @PeterStarck that was the catalogue I got lost in ? @joe90 the doors don’t exist at the moment so they could be 15mm in which case I don’t have a problem I guess, I could either route out the two 12mm bits to recess the hinges or mount the hinges on the inside face and have 9mm of frame showing when the doors are closed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, Russdl said: I could either route out the two 12mm bits to recess the hinges or mount the hinges on the inside face and have 9mm of frame showing when the doors are closed? Yup, both would work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russdl Posted January 29, 2021 Author Share Posted January 29, 2021 It’s always so simple in the end. I’ve got to stop overthinking things! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, Russdl said: It’s always so simple in the end. I’ve got to stop overthinking things! Yes, but bouncing ideas with others is always a good idea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 2 hours ago, joe90 said: That’s difficult, initially I thought “kitchen” hinges but they only fit with one piece of side panel, you have two (doubled). Plus they are recessed into the mdf and that is usually min 15mm. Fit hinges to the outer layer with a clearance cut out around them on the inner layer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, Temp said: cut out around them on the inner layer Yes, but better to route leaving 15/16mm thickness which is what they are designed for and a bit more fir screws to hold onto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 How about this type. Would need a rubber stop to prevent them hitting the ceiling as they open more than 90... https://www.locksonline.com/Neuform-Hinge-for-15mm-to-16mm-Door-Thickness-590.html?gclid=CjwKCAiAgc-ABhA7EiwAjev-j8rnrjnYKI14KZ3ToWk7bywU5ZzJlm871I2lBMCaQK96fD3_sc9MxhoCdScQAvD_BwE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 20 minutes ago, Temp said: How about this type. Would need a rubber stop to prevent them hitting the ceiling as they open more than 90... https://www.locksonline.com/Neuform-Hinge-for-15mm-to-16mm-Door-Thickness-590.html?gclid=CjwKCAiAgc-ABhA7EiwAjev-j8rnrjnYKI14KZ3ToWk7bywU5ZzJlm871I2lBMCaQK96fD3_sc9MxhoCdScQAvD_BwE Nice but lacks the adjustment a “kitchen” hinge gives but might be easier to fit ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vijay Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 flush hinges would work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone West Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 3 hours ago, joe90 said: Yes but as I said they only work with min 15mm side panel and equal door thickness ? Not quite sure I understand but aren't the side panels double thickness and the door doesn't have to be the same thickness, mine aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 (edited) 28 minutes ago, PeterStarck said: Not quite sure I understand but aren't the side panels double thickness and the door doesn't have to be the same thickness, mine aren't. Trust me it won’t work unless you recess the hinge on the side panel to match the door thickness (ask me how I know ?) you only need to recess to get the hinge plate in the side panel. you could not recess as long as you don’t mind 9mm of the side panel showing, which might give you a bit more grace regarding hitting your ceiling. Edited January 29, 2021 by joe90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russdl Posted January 29, 2021 Author Share Posted January 29, 2021 Thanks everyone for the feedback. I think I’ll end up with mounting the hinges inside which will leave about 9mm of the frame showing. I can live with that and plus it will give me a few mm extra before the open doors hit the loft ceiling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone West Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 43 minutes ago, joe90 said: ask me how I know You need a 'Full Overlay Plus' hinge in order to have a different thickness door and side panel with full coverage of the side panel edge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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