90 degree hinges.

[Russdl]

What hinge do I need to allow a wardrobe door to open and close as per the image below?

 

I’m completely whelmed by the choice available, bordering on over whelmed. 
 

 

[joe90]

That’s difficult, initially I thought “kitchen” hinges but they only fit with one piece of side panel, you have two (doubled). Plus they are recessed into the mdf and that is usually min 15mm. Can you not do as below?

 

[Russdl]

@joe90 I don’t have the room for hinges as per your diagram, it’s in the loft so limited space, plus if it opens more than 90 degrees it’ll start digging holes in the plaster. 
 

 

[Russdl]

I was rooting around in the Hafele catalogue where I suspect the answer to my problem lies but I couldn’t decipher it. 

[Russdl]

? with that reaction @joe90 I guess I’m now looking for the ‘paddle shop’ now!

[joe90]

@Russdl, not sure what you can do, with double side panels and single door panel you need a “swinging” hinge, like used fir kitchen cabinets, but as explained above I know of none that do this and my other suggestion won’t fit your loft dimensions. I hope someone can come up with a solution for you. Trying to think “outside the box” you could fit as below and still use hinge idea above.

[Jason L]

Cant you put the door inside of the opening and large architraves on the face of the frame ?

[Gone West]

I made a cupboard in the utility room with louvered doors and it took me ages to work which hinges to use from the Hafele site. I went through all the diagrams showing different overlaps etc and got there in the end.

https://www.hafele.co.uk/en/product/concealed-cup-hinge-95-standard-for-up-to-28-mm-thick-doors-full-overlay-mounting-click-on-arm-tiomos/000000fc0001664100010023/#SearchParameter=&Category=pKgKAOsFlooAAAFev2d9OkCL&checkbox_fs_hinges_model=Grass+Tiomos&checkbox_fs_hinges_opening_angle=95&checkbox_fs_hinges_overlay=Full+Overlay&checkbox_fs_hinges_product=Concealed+Cup+Hinges&@P.FF.followSearch=9940&PageNumber=1&OriginalPageSize=12&PageSize=12&Position=2&OrigPos=1356&ProductListSize=3

 

I used these in the end.

https://www.locksonline.com/Concealed-Hinges-133/Grass-TIOMOS-Clip-On-95186-hinge-full-overlay-plus-mounting-68747.html

[joe90]

24 minutes ago, PeterStarck said:

used these in the end.

Yes but as I said they only work with min 15mm side panel and equal door thickness ?

[Russdl]

@Jason L that’s not a bad idea. It won’t narrow it down too much. 
 

@PeterStarck that was the catalogue I got lost in ?

 

@joe90 the doors don’t exist at the moment so they could be 15mm in which case I don’t have a problem I guess, I could either route out the two 12mm bits to recess the hinges or mount the hinges on the inside face and have 9mm of frame showing when the doors are closed?

[joe90]

3 minutes ago, Russdl said:

I could either route out the two 12mm bits to recess the hinges or mount the hinges on the inside face and have 9mm of frame showing when the doors are closed?

Yup, both would work.

[Russdl]

It’s always so simple in the end. I’ve got to stop overthinking things!

[joe90]

3 minutes ago, Russdl said:

It’s always so simple in the end. I’ve got to stop overthinking things!

Yes, but bouncing ideas with others is always a good idea.

[Temp]

2 hours ago, joe90 said:

That’s difficult, initially I thought “kitchen” hinges but they only fit with one piece of side panel, you have two (doubled). Plus they are recessed into the mdf and that is usually min 15mm. 

 

Fit hinges to the outer layer with a clearance cut out around them on the inner layer?

[joe90]

3 minutes ago, Temp said:

cut out around them on the inner layer

Yes, but better to route leaving 15/16mm thickness which is what they are designed for and a bit more fir screws to hold onto.

[Temp]

How about this type. Would need a rubber stop to prevent them hitting the ceiling as they open more than 90...

 

https://www.locksonline.com/Neuform-Hinge-for-15mm-to-16mm-Door-Thickness-590.html?gclid=CjwKCAiAgc-ABhA7EiwAjev-j8rnrjnYKI14KZ3ToWk7bywU5ZzJlm871I2lBMCaQK96fD3_sc9MxhoCdScQAvD_BwE

[joe90]

20 minutes ago, Temp said:

How about this type. Would need a rubber stop to prevent them hitting the ceiling as they open more than 90...

 

https://www.locksonline.com/Neuform-Hinge-for-15mm-to-16mm-Door-Thickness-590.html?gclid=CjwKCAiAgc-ABhA7EiwAjev-j8rnrjnYKI14KZ3ToWk7bywU5ZzJlm871I2lBMCaQK96fD3_sc9MxhoCdScQAvD_BwE

Nice but lacks the adjustment a “kitchen” hinge gives but might be easier to fit ?

[Vijay]

flush hinges would work

[Gone West]

3 hours ago, joe90 said:

Yes but as I said they only work with min 15mm side panel and equal door thickness ?

Not quite sure I understand but aren't the side panels double thickness and the door doesn't have to be the same thickness, mine aren't.

[joe90]

28 minutes ago, PeterStarck said:

Not quite sure I understand but aren't the side panels double thickness and the door doesn't have to be the same thickness, mine aren't.

Trust me it won’t work unless you recess the hinge on the side panel to match the door thickness (ask me how I know ?) you only need to recess to get the hinge plate in the side panel. you could not recess as long as you don’t mind 9mm of the side panel showing, which might give you a bit more grace regarding hitting your ceiling.

Edited January 29, 2021 by joe90

[Russdl]

Thanks everyone for the feedback. I think I’ll end up with mounting the hinges inside which will leave about 9mm of the frame showing. I can live with that and plus it will give me a few mm extra before the open doors hit the loft ceiling. 

[Gone West]

43 minutes ago, joe90 said:

ask me how I know

You need a 'Full Overlay Plus' hinge in order to have a different thickness door and side panel with full coverage of the side panel edge.