epsilonGreedy Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 I have been fitting the long bracing timbers into my roof structure today and before fully fixing the two trusses over the landing I thought it best to check I will be able to fit a loft ladder and slide an MVHR unit between the joists. The problem is that my attic trusses over the landing are a chunky 50mm thick. One truss is 5mm out of position hence spaced 605mm on centres resulting in a 55.5 cm gap for the frame of a loft ladder. Is this wide enough? If not I could slide one truss an extra 10mm over with a lump hammer to widen the gap, (yes I will re plumb the verticals of any moved truss). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 (edited) Some go down as low as 38cm opening width. https://www.toolstation.com/werner-aluminium-loft-ladder/p40397?store=U2&utm_source=googleshopping&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=googleshoppingfeed&gclid=Cj0KCQiAy579BRCPARIsAB6QoIb8tiyFh0KrswOeW3itXoH80wP8mZBxcvwSCmfR3M78BowFT0RrIKQaArTZEALw_wcB * Minimum loft opening width 0.38m (1'3") https://www.toolstation.com/telesteps-loft-line-mini-loft-ladder/p53636 Mini hatch opening: 520 x 600mm https://www.toolstation.com/tb-davies-envirofold-loft-ladder/p63295 Loft Opening Length x Width:1200 x 550mm Edited November 8, 2020 by Temp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 they made for 600 opening and you wouldn't want any smaller to get in and out off. if you've not already platsterboarded you will get them in no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 (edited) I think the simple answer is it depends on the loft ladder width and size of your MVHR!!!? just measured mine and it’s 550mm wide frame packed out between 600mm joists. I would not want it any narrower than mine. Edited November 8, 2020 by joe90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 +1 Its not the ladder its your shoulders that are the limitation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oz07 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 The ladders are made for 600 c ie 550mm gap. You can always put mvhr up before you fix the frame in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 @epsilonGreedy this is a bargain at the moment if you have a trade card, even at £99 it’s good value. https://www.wickes.co.uk/Youngman-Timberline-Loft-Ladder-Access-Kit/p/183453 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 16 minutes ago, PeterW said: @epsilonGreedy this is a bargain at the moment if you have a trade card, even at £99 it’s good value. https://www.wickes.co.uk/Youngman-Timberline-Loft-Ladder-Access-Kit/p/183453 That’s identical to mine and works well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 keylite do an insulated one in several dimensions to suit truss spacing. https://www.keyliteroofwindows.com/shop/loft-ladder/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epsilonGreedy Posted November 9, 2020 Author Share Posted November 9, 2020 On 08/11/2020 at 15:50, PeterW said: @epsilonGreedy this is a bargain at the moment if you have a trade card, even at £99 it’s good value. https://www.wickes.co.uk/Youngman-Timberline-Loft-Ladder-Access-Kit/p/183453 Thanks and @joe90likes his. I might fit one as soon as the roof is slated. The extra ££ for the attic trusses is beginning to look like a wise investment, the space created is larger than I anticipated even though headroom room is 5ft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 @epsilonGreedy is yours a warm roof? If so the storage in the loft is an asset IMO, saves masses of cupboards in the house and with an easy usable loft ladder easily accessible. A good place fir the MVHR if you’re fitting one and mo need to insulate the pipework (apart from the incoming pipes from the outside) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epsilonGreedy Posted November 9, 2020 Author Share Posted November 9, 2020 18 minutes ago, joe90 said: @epsilonGreedy is yours a warm roof? If so the storage in the loft is an asset IMO, saves masses of cupboards in the house and with an easy usable loft ladder easily accessible. A good place fir the MVHR if you’re fitting one and mo need to insulate the pipework (apart from the incoming pipes from the outside) ? Not a warm roof by design but as I look at a useful storage area I am starting to consider how it can be partitioned into a semi warm space. Just need to ensure I don't create temperate damp space. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, epsilonGreedy said: a useful storage area Great for suitcases and Christmas trees (false) etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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