LSB Posted September 8, 2020 Posted September 8, 2020 I have been asked to list each room to say what is living space. So, the snug is 100% living space, but what about the following. Walk in wardrobe ensuite pantry utility bathroom wc office hall just trying to work out size of living space versus size of the whole barn prior to conversion. TIA Jill
Conor Posted September 8, 2020 Posted September 8, 2020 office is only one in that list. It could be argued that a large walk in wardrobe off a bedroom could be used as a habitable room.... e.g. we'll be using ours as the baby's room for a year or so. "A room used for dwelling purposes but which is not solely a kitchen, utility room, bathroom, cellar or sanitary accommodation."
Ferdinand Posted September 8, 2020 Posted September 8, 2020 You may get different asnwers for Planning and eg Estate Agent purposes.
the_r_sole Posted September 8, 2020 Posted September 8, 2020 For what purpose are you trying to figure this out? You could really answer it differently for whatever purpose as there's not really a formal definition of "living" space - although I would tend to split it as "service" and "served" spaces...
DevilDamo Posted September 8, 2020 Posted September 8, 2020 Who has asked you to provide the living spaces assuming it’s not Planning or Building Regulations as they refer to habitable rooms? Although saying that... I don’t think even Planning care what rooms are habitable.
LSB Posted September 9, 2020 Author Posted September 9, 2020 (edited) it's a barn conversion and on one side the roof is a bit low at only 2.1m without any insulation. Our architect has said that we may be refused planning if we use this part as normal rooms, but we can use this space by putting non-living rooms at that side, such as bathrooms, walk in wardrobe and even the utility room. We are going to try and dig down, but class q planning says that you must use the existing foundations, even though the barn doesn't have them as such. We must leave the walls which also means that digging down might end up with us needing under pinning. All things to think about. A lot of this is to get the planning, the architect says that we can then put in an amendment to make that part of roof higher by changing the pitch of the roof as the other side is over 3 m. Edited September 9, 2020 by LSB
the_r_sole Posted September 9, 2020 Posted September 9, 2020 you're paying an architect to do this stuff for you, surely they can design something to meet the class q requirements? (I don't ever remember planning commenting on the internal heights of rooms before, it happens quite regularly that things get approved for planning which are impossible or impractical to build!)
LSB Posted September 9, 2020 Author Posted September 9, 2020 The architect has drawn plans that meet class Q, I had given him my ideas, but he said he couldn't do them because of the roof height. The problem with Class Q is that the dimensions, up down and round about must not exceed the size of the barn, that includes upwards, i.e. the roof line. The architect may be over anxious and planning wouldn't care if I built a cave dwelling. The planning delay is not due to this, but due to possible contamination. What I'm wondering though is can I change the internal layout to what I want after approval or do I have to submit a change of application.
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