Onoff Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 About half, so circa 25/50 of the runner beans have sprouted today including the 3 beans saved from last year. I need "soil" for my salad enclosure made from an old bath. I have a load of top soil from the patio excavation. I can sieve this but is there some way of "sterilising" it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 I have taken to using a mix of garden soil, last years compost and some added fertiliser for all my pots. Yes weed seedlings grow from it. So on top of it I dress with westland or dobbies compost, as nothing seems to grow well in that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 12 hours ago, saveasteading said: Yes weed seedlings grow from it. Most of these are tomatoes or French marigolds which have seeded themselves. Easy to recognise and remove fortunately. Self sown tomatoes can be good or disappointing, so I only keep a few for fun. Problem weeds esp grass seem to fail if covered deeply enough. 5cm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Could I... Fill the bath with soil then cover it in say bin liners. Then punch holes thru and pop in little lettuce, carrot, whatever seeds, (plants?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Reverend Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 just hoe around the plants you want to keep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 Looking like I'll get all 50 beans sprouting here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 @Onoff How well did your nettle tea fertilizer work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 29 minutes ago, SteamyTea said: @Onoff How well did your nettle tea fertilizer work? Tbh, once it stopped stinking out the garden I forgot about it and never used it. The water in the bucket dried out last year. I'll approach with caution over the weekend. Might even set another bucket going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 (edited) Got half the bean holes dug with my knocked up tool that I chucked together from scrap. Hit a red ant nest who weren't too happy. Got a few stings for my efforts! The beans are more than ready to go in: Bear in mind here that I'm not a gardener! The cored hole is nom 3" dia and say 5 1/2" deep. Where they're dug, inside the rectangle of the galv frame, that's the relatively soft soil that I painstakingly sieved and layered with compost, ash, etc. Outside the galv frame is virgin flint country The little pots the beans are in now are nom 2 1/2" dia by 2 1/2" deep. I'm assuming to take the plants out of the pots and drop them in the holes. Maybe firmly pack round them with some bagged compost? Or should I leave in the pots and just drop in the hole, then again maybe just remove the bottom circle of card? Or run scissors up the side? A success rate of around 47/50. That was 47 new seeds and 3 saved. Not sure on whether it was new or old seeds that failed. When I say failed, all the seeds came up but I've 3 stragglers. A couple were pot bound and grew the wrong way up and the 3rd I think was maybe got at by a pigeon. Cheers Edited June 8, 2023 by Onoff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Hi @Onoff Disturb the roots as little as possible but take the pot off is what I would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S2D2 Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Onoff said: Got half the bean holes dug with my knocked up tool that I chucked together from scrap. Hit a red ant nest who weren't too happy. Got a few stings for my efforts! The beans are more than ready to go in: Bear in mind here that I'm not a gardener! The cored hole is nom 3" dia and say 5 1/2" deep. Where they're dug, inside the rectangle of the galv frame, that's the relatively soft soil that I painstakingly sieved and layered with compost, ash, etc. Outside the galv frame is virgin flint country The little pots the beans are in now are nom 2 1/2" dia by 2 1/2" deep. I'm assuming to take the plants out of the pots and drop them in the holes. Maybe firmly pack round them with some bagged compost? Or should I leave in the pots and just drop in the hole, then again maybe just remove the bottom circle of card? Or run scissors up the side? A success rate of around 47/50. That was 47 new seeds and 3 saved. Not sure on whether it was new or old seeds that failed. When I say failed, all the seeds came up but I've 3 stragglers. A couple were pot bound and grew the wrong way up and the 3rd I think was maybe got at by a pigeon. Cheers Given these are designed for hot drinks I'd be surprised if they compost quickly, I'd definitely remove them before planting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Bes,tif there is a root ball, to take them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 2 hours ago, S2D2 said: Given these are designed for hot drinks I'd be surprised if they compost quickly, I'd definitely remove them before planting. Yes, these expresso pots certainly haven't gone as "soggy" as the recycled cardboard ones from Lidl did last year. I wonder what "commercial" composting entails? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Onoff said: what "commercial" composting entails? Massive piles of garden and food waste generate huge temperatures that break up bones even. But plastic linings are bad . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 I've scored a possible daily supply of coffee grounds from some posh offices. From what I've read they can act as a slug deterrent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Onoff said: Deterrent Yes they say that. I do it but won't swear it helped. Ash is better. But it is good compost so do it. The office will be quoting this as a big effort in saving the planet. I hope they take the coffee out for you. Where do the capsules then go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Onoff said: From what I've read they can act as a slug deterrent You can also make high grade compost from coffee beans. Well that is what they claim at my local chain coffee shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 (edited) I was once unreasonably annoyed when my business won a sustainability award for saving tons of carbon through efficient design, but had to share it with a hotel that was using coffee grounds as mulching... Edited June 8, 2023 by saveasteading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, saveasteading said: The office will be quoting this as a big effort in saving the planet Yes. I am going to tell people that my bad habits are green, may save 0.1 kWh a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Beans are in! A scoop of compost in each hole. The expresso cup removed and plant popped in. Then a bit of soil packed around it & watered. Lastly a spray of garlic water around the perimeter. Fingers crossed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 Went round the beans late yesterday evening with the coffee grounds I'd left to dry in the sun. Further reading says a weak spray solution of coffee is better than the grounds. Also that it is a neurotoxin to slugs and snails. On the down side it can apparently deter/affect beneficial creepy crawlies. @saveasteading any capsules from coffee machines where I work get recycled separately. The grounds I'm getting come from freshly ground beans. It's from the posh floors where money seems no object and staff welfare is paramount. Everything is top quality. I'm allowed to fish it out of the rubbish 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 26 minutes ago, Onoff said: I'm allowed to fish it out of the rubbish Not so corporately responsible after all. How about tell them the credit they can claim IF they have a grounds bin for you? I found sacrificial lettuce were a success. Slugs prefer them and are easily spotted on top at midnight. Soon all gone to the shrubbery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 14 hours ago, Onoff said: Lastly a spray of garlic water around the perimeter. 20 minutes ago, saveasteading said: found sacrificial lettuce were a success Starting to sound like (expletive deleted)ing witchcraft this gardening. I have heard that deflowering a virgin makes the volunteer potatoes stand to attention. Off to find a virgin for you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canalsiderenovation Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 Slug deterrent, you can borrow our garden visitor . . . . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 More coffee Sir? Ring fencing the plants with grounds, so far so good: I still need to clear a "no man's land" / small mower's width around the 4 sides. Hope to get the metal frame re-erected with new printed connectors and reinforcing gussets riveted on. That'll give me scope for future netting. In the short term I might use it as framing to grow some butternut squash up on the sunny side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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