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I'll have about 50m of galvanized iron pipe doing nothing soon! Cheers @ProDave, the original barstewards just buried my pipe in the clay, No shingle, nothing. I think my water company says 750mm min / 1350 max depth and to be ducted where it enters the building. The MDPE's cheap enough the ducting unless I've been looking in the wrong places is more expensive? What's the norm, internal diameter wise, for a duct to run a 25mm MDPE in, anyone?

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I use a huge amount on high tensile bolts exposed to the elements. They get torqued periodically and taped up, works a treat. I also use it on hydraulic fittings to prevent rust. Couldn't agree more ref the mess side of things.

Nah, didn't mean for the leaky bend. BEFORE I had an issue with this pipe I wrapped the iron bit below the stopcock as in the opening post.

It's OK though isn't it to wrap Denzo tape around a drinking water pipe to help prevent corrosion? I mean if it's NOT already leaking?

If I'd have known you had all that I've have voted Remain! Soon need a passport to sample such delights.

We have a combined Chinese / chippy, an Indian, a kebab van and a pie & mash van. One of each, that's it. WTF is "munchy box"? Pretty sure my first guess is wrong..... I'd heard of the deep fried Mars Bar but was gobsmacked when I worked in Edinburgh, everything from deep fried Toffee Crisp to Snickers to pizza and this was in the "chippy".

& a kebab shortly!

Found it!.....Possibly either that or we've created more by disturbing the fragile old galv iron pipe. Started by excavating an exploratory trench from where we thought the main ran. Well, 5m from that point we found the main which means it must run diagonal across the garden then up the side of the house. One bomb site later (tbh it was a bomb site before): View My Video Age is obviously the main issue here but guessing that cold bending galv pipe can't have helped i.e. it would have flaked off the galv. The video shows it comes up from the road at an angle then dives off to the right under the foundation into the bathroom. Even then it must double back on itself to reach the pipe in the opening post. Must be that bit deeper than I dug down when I excavated the floor for the UFH. Just deciding on the best route for the new one. A longer trench involving more work would allow me to get rid of existing overhead cabling and maybe to sling in some ducts for future CCTV, gate controls/intercom etc.

Just taken up the floor board above "X marks the spot" as suggested by the water board guys divining rods. DRY AS A BONE. However.....from talking to the previous owner just now (in his late 80's) there is a possibility there is an old iron feed teed off BEFORE the stopcock in the opening post that went to a what was a pig feed boiler shed. Giving up, beer o'clock!

Hasn't stopped! No chance of finding a wet patch on the lawn from leaking water main in this either!

I mentioned that my road that used to be an "old" water course: & "downriver":

I'd want to, because of the tunnel bunnies under the floor, barstewards would love a bit of MDPE! It's got to be ducted where it enters the property too. South east water specify 750mm minimum depth, ducted at the house. Was half considering running it in a bit of scaffold tube if I did sit on the dirt under the suspended floor. http://www.southeastwater.co.uk/faqs/new-water-supply/what-is-a-trench-inspection-and-why-do-i-need-one Didn't get very far with it today tbh. Wife's Mum not too well so she's been there a bit rather than clearing the play room (which I can't do "..in case I mess it up"). Missus then decided we needed to cut the lawns before the storm (which has just hit). Spent a good while trying to jig something to stop the belt jumping off the mower when put into reverse. Then scythed a large, overgrown area by hand, pre doing the mowing to give the slow worms and snakes a chance to get out of the way. None harmed btw.

The biggest problem as it stands with the existing route is the digging the trench under the playroom. The dirt is bone dry and has obviously sat there for years with God knows what vermin under there. V.messy and time consuming. One saving grace is that the joists I'm pretty sure run in the direction of the pipe. Will still be a bitch digging by hand down between two joists! My preferred option would be to trench up to the house then go around the perimeter and come in at the kitchen the other side of the house (as Dave says). Could possibly kill a few birds with one stone there as I could also get rid of the overhead SWA / catenary to the garage. Depends how much digging the BiL's up for.

My thoughts exactly, I could dig up what is a rather fragile pipe held together by the surrounding ground and it could disintegrate / make things worse. No, the water guy gave no indication with his stick as to the overall route as he couldn't hear it through the lawn. He commented that the higher the pitch of the sound tends to mean it's in / nearer the house. We think it's a straight line from the stopcock near the fence: under the lawn about 2' deep, under the concrete path around the house, under the suspended floor again deep under the dirt below then up as in the first post. But we could be wrong..... The wife said he used the divining rods three times, showing the same effect to seemingly pinpoint where he thinks it is. Just trying to coerce the missus to start clearing the playroom so I lift the carpets and start! I might, before lifting boards, first off whack a Cavity Master inspection hole in the floor board exactly over where he said.

I might add that officially, on his report, he had to put down that he was unable to find the leak.

Don't know never claimed on it tbh. Wife would probably moan that the premium would go up!

Water board guy turns up: Nice guy, east European, has attended before when we had a leak on their MDPE elbow. So he does the listening stick bit up the garden to no avail. Comes into the house and gut feel from the noise is it's the "house end" rather than across the lawn. He then goes out to his van and comes back with DIVINING RODS saying it's unofficial but that he was trained how to use them way back when in Serbia or wherever it is he comes from. I wasn't here but the wife reckons he does his thing and they "move". He reckons its slap bang under the centre of the downstairs playroom. Guess what I'm doing this weekend?

Same iron pipe that comes up from the road. Not sure of the route it takes from where it goes into the floor above in the OP. I've had the suspended floors up in the adjacent rooms and there's no sign of it. Must be deep under the dirt below. Might borrow the FiL's metal detector.

Got the water board coming out for a "first hour free" investigation on the pipe our side. Girl on the phone said they have a special bit of kit & ALWAYS find it so there shouldn't be a charge. If they can't pinpoint it (within the hour) then plan B and digger time! Thinking it could be: - Age of pipe - Mature tree roots in the garden - Incoming main passes under the path that encircles the house. I've stacked rubble bags full of hardcore on the path. Crushed it? - Where the main comes up in the corner of the bathroom I've obviously knocked out and re-laid that concrete floor. I was careful though to wrap the pipe and protect during the pour. Soon know hopefully!

I can confirm that the two near me I found on Jeremy's link are in fact (still) there. The shallower one at +/-40m is in fact the old "well" on the farm. The +/-90m one is just in a corner of a field where there is a "structure". All the ones local to me tie up pretty much with old farms or large manor type houses some which are long demolished. It all sort of fits with their use as the primary water source down here before the mains was laid on. All we need now is main drainage and gas!

Looking along my valley and there's quite a number of bore holes. I guess old farms and smallholdings. A random thought.....aside from the water extraction possibilities would these be any good for a GSHP use? Seems a waste of good holes!

He signed a CD for the missus, it says "To *****, thanks for the root, Kev!" The one he signed for me says "To ..... get f*****, Kev!" Blown too much of me time buying dinner and wine.....

I've met Kevin Wilson a couple of times now after concerts at CD signings. Made the mistake of wearing a previous tour's T-shirt and he called me a "Cheap c***" for not buying the new one in front of umpteen other fans.

My BiL can attest to the pain of burns off of cut plant stems. He was asked to cut a neighbours 8 acre field for "somewhere for the kids to play in". He walked it before cutting with a tractor towed mower. Unbeknown to anyone there were some concrete slabs which he duly ran over damaging the blades. He BRIEFLY lay down on the cut field to look underneath at the damage then went home to fix it. His whole right arm and side of his face blistered like something from a horror film. Wild Parsnip in this case we think.