zoothorn

Aha. I''m the one been the one in the sun too long then. You must be up in bonnie scotland-?

Chaps, just forming a plan for my 2 posts. Do the U shape brackets fix to posts, with say (2x) 8mm S.S threaded rods? Or 10mm? And the post job itself: Brackets here Wednesday, so I'll dig out my two pad areas & get the 2 buckets in ready next. Plumbline marks centres. Is the idea roughly thus: 1) fix my two brackets onto posts, 2) measure & cut post notches, 3) attatch *temporary offcut thin timbers for support @ btm, 4) clamp in place over bucket with spike within/ 1 temporary screw to frame, 5) use *timbers to get level & plumb.. 5) pour concrete. ? Thanks, zoot

Don't you mean the late night Bear & Twerk establishment-?

My bead? Beard? Bread? Has SS been in the sun too long? I think we need a zoot (summer) musical interlude.. Zoothorn.

Yup good reminder thanks J. It'll have to be a weight on a string for my plumbline. Need some luck too. I have good firm clay soil here so I think a smaller bucket will do, as my video chap's size ones too.. except his posts sit fully on the pad, a spike set up to aid the post not slipping off. Thanks, zh

Hi J, yes exactly what I had in mind. On the LHS here, a bit of 8x2 goes as cladding.. just along the front. Video simply has the chap fire thru 2 long torque screws thru both 2" D timbers, & onward into the pillar. Maybe some of my bigass turbo screws. Or your coach bolts idea here is possibly best. A wait on the galv shoe brackets tho. Thx zoot

Buckets.. if Im going for the U bracket with spike, can I use a smaller bucket? A std sized one ( bought 2 but can return).. a bit overkill maybe? There seem to be smaller 10" wide buckets. Better maybe? Less f'ugly. But sufficient support-? Thanks, Zoothorn

Got a bit excited. The weird nozzles a leftfield idea! I need to do today tho, before weather breaks. So got some Sika sbt+ & will have to wangle it in somehow. Got a postcrete bag, & cheapo buckets. But no galv brackets in town. So.. will have to wait for amazon ones, i 'll buy today. Damn useful link that one Onoff, your help invaluable of course. I can crack on with side outer 6x 2's, the sika job, get the joists in maybe too.. if you think ok to? Or maybe leave this added weight until pillars done . Thanks, Zoot

Understood- thanks for help today btw.

You see I can get nozzle under here.. but accessing from above is n/a. I'll buy the sika anyway, use a wet finger or summink. @Onoff could you tell me if postcrete is ok for my bucket-filled concrete pads idea? Thanks, zoot

I cant get to the centre top one, at all. But if I silicone my 5mm gap between cill & ledger, before the deck boards go on.. I should be ok just. The rest half I can only get a finger to, on the tricky side as it were. 1 inch mask tale for reference.

Doing that right now. I hope to dive into town, try ( longshot) get 2 galv bracket things.. some form of concrete.. & this stuff for the wall spacer gaps. Before 12 am! thx zh

Chaps, would a bag of postcrete be ok, to fill a cheapo bucket as my two pads? Concrete.. still a subject I find tricky to understand to do one small job like so.

Sorry I glossed over this/ didn't click at the time. I can only get a gun tube nozzle into the topside of the upper ones, & underneath for the green lower ones. I need to get a finger or a very thin trowel in the tricky sides. Zh

@Onoff one thing I forgot to ask about: the tubes in the walls, have 10mm around them so rain can get in, in theory. Before I put joists in, I can just get access to them. Is there something best forced into these gaps? Obviously I cant ever get access to them once joists put in. Thanks, zoot

Good end to the week that. Properly fixed in the frame too.. so I can't undo it now. Thanks chaps. Zooter

Woohoo!

Hi Onoff. Yes I know this idea was gone over in detail, but it's the most difficult for me. There are other ways to consider. Easiest is the single rebar. Mid- easiest is your brackets idea. Welsh scaffolders, in this heat, to an english pig asking a favour.. is not a recipe for success tbh. Id be left to cut it.. & I can't change disc on my grinder for a metal slitting disc.. too stiff to undo. If I can just get this frame up first, things will flow from there, & the way to go will be clearer re. pillar base. Can you think of a way I could get this up in the meantime?

Hi markc. I think I get the rough idea. Ive fixed my 3 pieces together.. but as its a shallow balcony, lifting the two side ends up & into the ledger end hangers, I can't quite see how I can do it. If it was a 2m depth balcony I could get the 3 sided beast to touch the ledger hangers. But 1100mm means its trickier.

No posts are only 7ft high. Design is 1) make deck, 2) add on support posts for handrails. Simplest this way. Can you just help here in the meantime tho: I have my ledger up, my front opposite " ledger" on the ground all hangers put on. I have my 2 outer sides cut. If I fix on my sides, to my front "ledger" ( on the ground). Then I have 3 sides of my rectangle, ready to fix to my ledger. Can I proceed... somehow to fix theses two sections together? On my own?

Ok understand the dims there. Shoe a good idea? I wasn't suggesting it.. the opposite in fact, as all I can see is my cabin pillars sit in these shoes, in a puddle of standing water. Shoes mean wet pillar bases.. I think. The same caveat with sitting the posts, rebar between, onto the concrete, surely-? Thanks, zoot

Chaps, I'm wondering if I can crack on trying to get the outer 3x walls of the frame up.. even if perched upon two temporary pillars. Is this the next step I wonder? I feel a bit stuck not knowing what next to do. If I can ( somehow, alone ) get the 3 perimeter frame sections joined to my ledger, I can continue on with the joists. And get it level.. then I can determine exactly where my concrete pads are to go. If I fix my two outer sides, to my front piece with its hangers on... is there any way I can get it up & join to my ledger? I think it just needs a temporary support ( say two vertical timbers) to safely carry on. Thanks, zoot

@Onoff no I don't have a laser thing. Not so cheap, & a week me figuring it out. Bucket idea understood. Now Peter's original idea was a scaffold section, inserted in pillar base, & these two pillars then get into place & braced. Level, plumb etc. Then the concrete is put in to set around the pole. I think this was the idea. The scaffold pole tho, compared to a rebar, is alot more for me to try & do. How do I cut it, & where do even I source a 1/4 of a pole from? Etc. The idea of J90's is simplest, & so maybe easiest for me. It tallies with my video clip. Certainly cheapest. Caveat being tho: the pillar sits in water, like my cabin pillars do in their shoes. I wonder if I can do this idea.. but have a standoff something between pillar & concrete? Thanks, zoot

Hi J. This idea is as per my 'mericun youtube video. I think 2 things seem tricky tho? 1) how do I possibly get that pad, at exactly the right height prior to putting post on? 2) I have a galv shoe thing on my csbin pillar btms.. but seems to me like the bases will rot.. wouldn't this idea be the same? 3) I have the additional issue of where my red line is/ the base of the post ( in the photo above).. is above the ground: so I need to pour the concrete into something, which sits both in -&- sticks up/ out 80mm proud of the ground. Thanks, zoot As

This is kinda similar on my 'mericun "Deck build" youtube video Im basing the build on. What he did, was have a 6" or so round concreted pad hard, with a rebar midpoint set into it, sticking up. Drilled a hole for it in centre btm of post. Etc. Difference maybe thus; his has preset concrete pad, & I think your idea would be get both pillars set level & plumb.. & THEN maybe pour the concrete to set around the pillars spikes-? Great help as always, zoot