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Air Source Heat Pump - 12kw vs 16kw
Dillsue replied to sokoma's topic in Air Source Heat Pumps (ASHP)
The heat geek Web site suggests a range of 40-65 w/m2 for a renovated house with CWI and DG so your 9kw loss is based on their worse case. Using 40 w/m2 gives you a 6kw heat loss. If you allow half that figure for your new build extension then you're up to 9kw so a 12kw heat pump should be more than adequate and likely oversized. The more I read about heat pumps the more I beleive they should be undersized rather than oversized for max year round efficiency. If there's concern about being cold for the few days of the year it's freezing then keep a £20 fan heater handy -
Radiators needed for ASHP and UFH?
Dillsue replied to YorkieSelfBuild's topic in Air Source Heat Pumps (ASHP)
I was commenting on yorkieselfbuilds 3kw loss and 10kw pump -
Radiators needed for ASHP and UFH?
Dillsue replied to YorkieSelfBuild's topic in Air Source Heat Pumps (ASHP)
So you've got a house with a max heat demand of 3kw and they're suggesting a HP with a minimum output of 4.89kw. That pump is likely gonna be short cycling for its whole life, cost you alot to run and pack up sooner than it should. -
Nope. They're likely greatful that you've bothered to tell them.
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I don't know what UKPN ask for but the ENA G98 notification that they should be using doesn't ask for the cutout size. Maybe check you're using the correct forms?? The ENA forms are all available on line and it's likely G98 form B you should be using For the export limitation that should be built into a G98 compliant inverter. Are you using an SE3680H inverter or smaller??
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With G98 it's notification within 30 days after commissioning, so after switching on.
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That's exactly where we ended up with an MCS cert but the DNO having no record of the install. If SE have confirmed the inverter is G98 compliant then steam on with the notification.
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G98 is a notification not an application. How do you know the G83 wasn't registered? Our DNO had no record of our G83 install but admitted that it doesn't necessarily mean they didn't receive it!! If your inverter is an older one that is G83 compliant but not G98, you might run into problems submitting generation a G98??
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Possible Luxpower Replacement Battery Inverters
Dillsue replied to NugentS's topic in Energy Storage
The FIT rules changed a few years ago and aren't necessarily a blocker to batteries. Physical constraints may but not FIT -
Another 'Cool Energy' heatpumps thread
Dillsue replied to HughF's topic in Air Source Heat Pumps (ASHP)
Have CE done their MCS design to size your heat pump at 10.5kw? Did you or anyone else check their sizing? -
Delays from heat pump installers
Dillsue replied to tokyotecubate's topic in Air Source Heat Pumps (ASHP)
Shame things haven't worked for you as it's so frustrating to have conflict. As in all walks of life, money talks so don't pay anything else until they've completed or you agree otherwise. For extra costs get a breakdown from them to understand what they are claiming for then go back to their quote/tender and see what they allowed for. If it says estimate or there's a quantified bill of materials then they may well be justified in claiming for extras but you need their breakdown of extras to understand the claim. In terms of delays you need to work out the realistic costs of the delays to work out of its worth getting into a fight with them. If you've got other work going on, fighting with 1 contractor over what may realistically be a few hundred pounds might not be worth the aggro. Remembering that you want them to honour any warranty and set the system up properly- having a fight over a few hundred pound might jeopardise aftersales -
If your neighbours install solar in the future and everyone's systems start tripping on sunny days, who do you think is going to get shutdown when the DNO investigates? It's everyone's grid so why not stick to the rules and keep it working for everyone's benefit- you'd likely be a bit miffed if a neighbours unauthorised system kept causing yours to trip. In terms of enforcement, look up the National Terms of Connection which you signed up to with your electricity supplier.
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Never looked at air tightness measuring but do you not need calibrated pressure/flow meters?
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I'm just looking at factoring in ventilation losses and am struggling to understand suggested air changes! Seems a figure of 0.5 ACH is reasonable for a reasonably well sealed house. If I use this figure it puts the heat loss up by about 50% which is having a massive impact on radiator sizes needed to run at 35 degrees. If half the air in the house is replaced every hour that's 4 complete changes of air in the 8 hours were in bed. We don't have the heating on overnight as the house holds its heat fairly well. Seems implausible that the house is getting 4 changes of potentially freezing outside air overnight or it would be freezing next morning, which it isnt. Only explanation I can see is theres enough thermal capacitance in the fabric that can reheat multiple changes of air?? Is 0.5 ACH actually what happens or is that a figure the B Regs want you to aim for??
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I think panels are very reliable but if you do get a faulty one how do you know which one is faulty without monitored optimisers? Remember that panel shading can be bird s**t, algae growth, passing clouds, neighbours trees growing, future telephone pole etc etc. Optimisers allow easy expansion using panels of differing wattage. They also allow panels on the same string to face differing directions without reducing collective production. If you're using SolarEdge optimisers, batches come up on ebay at a fraction of retail price so don't have to be painfully expensive
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Don't they spread install time over a longer period by identifying which radiators need changing then changing them at a later date? That could be repeated install visits over weeks or months with the attendant disruption of breaking into a working system??
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Not for me. Unless you mount them inside the roof then they are either integrated into the panel or mounted behind/under the panels. If you or your roofer are confident on the roof then it's only a 15 minute job to lift a panel, swap an optimiser and refix the panel. I have access to a rope and harness so happy to work off a ladder but with an alloy scaffold tower it's a breeze to lift a panel.
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Wow, thanks for all the input. We currently heat 95% with wood 5% lpg so I've no historic consumption figures. We'll be keeping the WBS and boiler to give a hybrid system although if we use the MCS umbrella outfit Im assuming we'll need to disconnect those and reconfigure after the HP is commissioned and signed off. There's wet UFH in the tiled kitchen floor set in an insulated concrete slab the rest of the house is rads which most will be getting swapped around or replaced sized to run at 35deg c. House is 270m2 built in 2001, low e DG, 75mm insulated cavity on the ground floor, 150mm insulated timber frame on first floor, 250mm loft insulation I have to work out how to factor in ACH but I'm not intending to size the HP for exactly the calculated heat loss as it needs time to do the DHW. With having a hybrid system the intention is to use the WBS/lpg boiler if the HP was struggling through a cold snap but in the 24 years we've been here those are few and far between. Weve got solar thermal and not averse to putting the immersion on occaisionally if the HP was busy with the heating. Based on the circa 4kw loss I'm thinking a 6Kw HP would give a bit of headroom for DHW and cope with the heating at least 95% of the time. Does that seem reasonable or is there more to consider??
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We're planning on installing an ASHP later this year and just working through heat loss and resizing rads. Total calculated loss comes out around 4kw without any allowance for ventilation losses. Back in December we heated the house for a couple of days with 3 electric fan heaters running 24/7 while it was around zero outside and 4kw of direct electric heating kept the house at 18/19 degrees. This roughly aligns with calculated loss so am I correct in thinking this validates the calcs??? The reason for asking is an MCS umbrella company have suggested an 18kw heat loss based on floor area and fabric details I've given them. I appreciate that MCS guidelines drive a very conservative approach but the 18kw seems way over the top. Am I missing something??
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I think the ex trial inverters are like hens teeth but interesting to know that the Quasar units will work outside of a trial
