Pocster Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 Hey all My gates have faded somewhat I think they are made of Iroko (????) You can just make out the remains of the deep rich colour they once were . Any recommendations for a varnish that will bring the natural colour back out ?? cheers
Pocster Posted June 16, 2018 Author Posted June 16, 2018 Just found this old photo - wow , it’s faded a lot !!
Onoff Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 Isn't iroko a cheaper substitute for teak? Maybe this: https://www.force4.co.uk/wessex-teak-care-system-1ltr-pack.html? FFS don't use "teak oil". It's got nothing to do with the oil from teak and will damage the teak's own oils.
newhome Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 You sure they weren't stained that colour? In which case you'll need to use a woodstain again and then varnish. I always use Sadolin. I would think you need something like Sadolin extra and then the Clearcoat varnish on top. Or Sikkens which is expensive but supposed to be good. I need to do something similar to the oak doorframe outside as it happens.
Pocster Posted June 16, 2018 Author Posted June 16, 2018 Might of been stained ! i don’t know what colour ‘natural’ iroko is ! So some sadolin stain ( near as I can match ) to stain - then a clear varnish ??
Pocster Posted June 16, 2018 Author Posted June 16, 2018 https://www.screwfix.com/p/sadolin-extra-durable-woodstain-semi-gloss-jacobean-walnut-2-5ltr/21825?tc=GT1&ds_kid=92700025679360659&ds_rl=1249484&ds_rl=1245250&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIg9P0iYbY2wIV7hXTCh0yEAUiEAQYASABEgIN9vD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=CM-J5I2G2NsCFcETGwod1gUMVw jacobean walnut ????? No idea what ‘colour’ that is !!!
Pocster Posted June 16, 2018 Author Posted June 16, 2018 On 16/06/2018 at 11:11, Onoff said: Bedec Barn Paint to match the frame! Expand Oh Christ ! What and have the planning enforcement guy out !!!
Onoff Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 On 16/06/2018 at 11:11, pocster said: https://www.screwfix.com/p/sadolin-extra-durable-woodstain-semi-gloss-jacobean-walnut-2-5ltr/21825?tc=GT1&ds_kid=92700025679360659&ds_rl=1249484&ds_rl=1245250&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIg9P0iYbY2wIV7hXTCh0yEAUiEAQYASABEgIN9vD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=CM-J5I2G2NsCFcETGwod1gUMVw jacobean walnut ????? No idea what ‘colour’ that is !!! Expand Near black I think?
newhome Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 On 16/06/2018 at 11:10, pocster said: Might of been stained ! i don’t know what colour ‘natural’ iroko is ! So some sadolin stain ( near as I can match ) to stain - then a clear varnish ?? Expand That's what I would do but I would wait for someone more knowledgeable to confirm . Or look at Sikkens too for the colour.
newhome Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 On 16/06/2018 at 11:12, Onoff said: Near black I think? Expand Well he is building an underground dungeon so black might be appropriate . 1
Onoff Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 You need to clean the wood first I think hence suggesting the teak kit which comprises a cleaner then sealer. Used on boat decks etc.
newhome Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 (edited) I hate choosing woodstains off the web. They never look anything like I imagine when I get them home and start using them. Even more so than paint. Best to see something that's stained the right colour and go with that unless someone on here knows the right colour. Can you not ask the place you got them from? Edited June 16, 2018 by newhome
Pocster Posted June 16, 2018 Author Posted June 16, 2018 On 16/06/2018 at 11:20, newhome said: I hate choosing woodstains off the web. They never look anything like I imagine when I get them home and start using them. Even more so than paint. Best to see something that's stained the right colour and go with that unless someone on here knows the right colour. Can you not ask the place you got them from? Expand The supplier ( as usual ) doesn’t reply . They didn’t finish the job 100% either - yet another fab ‘tradesman’ !!
Jeremy Harris Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 Stains don't work that well with iroko, in my experience, as it's very like teak; naturally oily and very close grained, so stuff doesn't soak into it at all well. There are yacht deck treatments, like Deks Olje, that work well. Not cheap though.
Pocster Posted June 16, 2018 Author Posted June 16, 2018 On 16/06/2018 at 12:24, JSHarris said: Stains don't work that well with iroko, in my experience, as it's very like teak; naturally oily and very close grained, so stuff doesn't soak into it at all well. There are yacht deck treatments, like Deks Olje, that work well. Not cheap though. Expand Thanks not worried about cost ; just want the best product for the job
Jeremy Harris Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 On 16/06/2018 at 12:35, pocster said: Thanks not worried about cost ; just want the best product for the job Expand You probably want to look at restoring the colour first, using one of the teak deck colour restoring treatments. Anything that works on teak generally works fine on iroko. This stuff works well at restoring the original colour: http://www.teakcleaner.co.uk/
Pocster Posted June 16, 2018 Author Posted June 16, 2018 On 16/06/2018 at 12:44, PeterW said: Osmo Polyx would work and can be tinted. Expand Have emailed them with photos - I’ll see what they say ?
Pocster Posted June 16, 2018 Author Posted June 16, 2018 On 16/06/2018 at 12:52, Ferdinand said: Creosote? Perhaps I am off-timbre with that. Expand Yucky ! ?
James H Posted June 17, 2018 Posted June 17, 2018 They look like they are made of Iroko, when new they probably had a coat of oil based varnish on. To bring them back to what they were tahes alot of work to compleat and maintain some sort of work needing every year and may be more often. First it would all need sanding down to bring back the colour, or you paint it dark colour. You would still have the problem of water peneration under metal parts and in the t&g joints which would then lift the finish off and lead to rotting. I am sorry to sound so down it could look lovely but it is alot of work. My advise is to let it grow old gracefully.
Pocster Posted June 17, 2018 Author Posted June 17, 2018 On 17/06/2018 at 17:20, James H said: They look like they are made of Iroko, when new they probably had a coat of oil based varnish on. To bring them back to what they were tahes alot of work to compleat and maintain some sort of work needing every year and may be more often. First it would all need sanding down to bring back the colour, or you paint it dark colour. You would still have the problem of water peneration under metal parts and in the t&g joints which would then lift the finish off and lead to rotting. I am sorry to sound so down it could look lovely but it is alot of work. My advise is to let it grow old gracefully. Expand I can’t ! They are only a few years old ! Want them looking nice as they did originally!!
Jeremy Harris Posted June 17, 2018 Posted June 17, 2018 Worth trying teak cleaner to see if it brings the colour back: http://www.teakcleaner.co.uk/ 1
Temp Posted June 17, 2018 Posted June 17, 2018 I think HG also make a teak restorer intended for garden furniture.
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