Pocster Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 They filled the ‘gaps’ with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 1 minute ago, pocster said: They filled the ‘gaps’ with https://www.drainagesuperstore.co.uk/product/water-cut-off-mastic-for-classicbond-and-firestone.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIypfc3-O52wIVFfhRCh0dBgbnEAQYASABEgJEa_D_BwE the ‘please note’ is interesting ffs ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Punter Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 "Water Cut Off Mastic is a butyl blend mastic used for sealing membrane edges when creating a compression type termination. Water Cut Off Mastic is extremely tacky and will remain so through its life. It must be used with a termination bar or similar compression type seal. Intended Uses Water Cut Off Mastic is primarily used as a sealing agent between various membranes and applicable when membrane is being terminated using a compression. Features and Benefits *Extremly Tacky *Provides a durable compression type seal between various membranes and parapet wall constructionsCoverage Rate 3 linear metres per tube at the recommended application rate of at 11mm bead." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Mr Punter said: "Water Cut Off Mastic is a butyl blend mastic used for sealing membrane edges when creating a compression type termination. Water Cut Off Mastic is extremely tacky and will remain so through its life. It must be used with a termination bar or similar compression type seal. Intended Uses Water Cut Off Mastic is primarily used as a sealing agent between various membranes and applicable when membrane is being terminated using a compression. Features and Benefits *Extremly Tacky *Provides a durable compression type seal between various membranes and parapet wall constructionsCoverage Rate 3 linear metres per tube at the recommended application rate of at 11mm bead." Yep They’ve used it for sealing when it shouldn’t be - hence why flashing required They genuinely think they’ve done a good job !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 So that stuff needs to be squashed between the membrane and the wall by a bar on the outside of the membrane - which isn’t present in your case ..! Have you paid them in full as I don’t think the job is complete from what I can see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, PeterW said: So that stuff needs to be squashed between the membrane and the wall by a bar on the outside of the membrane - which isn’t present in your case ..! Have you paid them in full as I don’t think the job is complete from what I can see. I paid them , to get rid of them I’m about to order the flashing , will install myself . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpd Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 God it’s painful to see how things are done by supposed professionals.... the last thing you want is water ingress after your all paved up...... get it flashed and sealed up 100% around those edges or your going to hate yourself in a few years when it starts to let water in. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Frankly it looks crap around the edges, it’s no wonder builders get a bad reputation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 2 hours ago, joe90 said: Frankly it looks crap around the edges, it’s no wonder builders get a bad reputation. Couldn’t agree more . I could of ( indeed would of ) done a better job . Anyway ; flashing ordered - let’s see if I can turn a crap job into a reasonable one ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 If they have used that mastic it never sets so peel back the membrane - plastic scraper may help and some warmth - and chisel off the high points and then stick it back on. Stick some DPM onto the mastic as a temporary measure to stop it getting filled with crud. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted June 5, 2018 Author Share Posted June 5, 2018 Well ! i got the first Batton up and begin cutting . Not going to happen - hardly scratch the stone went and bought new diamond blades (£40 each !!! ) zooooooooooommmmmm !!!!!!!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted June 5, 2018 Author Share Posted June 5, 2018 Waiting for flashing to arrive . what annoys me is that it wasn’t difficult or time consuming ( with a good blade ) . ’Just glue the shit out of everything ‘ - not good practice. I can see once I have the trim it will kick out in places -.So much primer and glue everywhere can’t easily peel the rubber back . i guess at the worse spot if it’s just 1cm embedded in the wall is better than none . And yes will CT1 the joints to bits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesP Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Great job, I did this at my Dad's home, flint stone walls. With the right discs its not difficult. Why the professionals did not bother just leaves you with inconvenience , no recommendation and continues the complaints about trades people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted June 5, 2018 Author Share Posted June 5, 2018 So , as you can see from the photos the ‘professionals’ did the edpm really high up this wall I.e it would be visible above the final floor level . ( you can see the level to the right , so why the imbeciles did this I know not ) Ive cut it back - but this goo , glue is all over the stone work - sticky as hell . whats the best way to get it off ? Acid wash ? ( not now ! Don’t fancy that on the edpm !! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpd Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Not sure what will work, sure someone will be along, truely feel your pain. I am lucky that I am in a situation where I do all my own work or am in charge of volunteers doing jobs for me, if it’s below slandered it’s my fault and mine alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted June 5, 2018 Author Share Posted June 5, 2018 Come on flashing turn up !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted June 6, 2018 Author Share Posted June 6, 2018 Ffs ! tnt ; next day delivery ; turns up 3 days late . Ordered 3 items , but am expecting 4 parcels ? ; just flashing has turned up Just placed it in grove too see - need to cut deeper . Also to get ‘over’ the stone bumps recon I can ‘hammer’ around them and deform the metal . No one ever sees it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PeterW Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, pocster said: Also to get ‘over’ the stone bumps recon I can ‘hammer’ around them and deform the metal . No one ever sees it Cut the stone front back with an SDS or a chisel - if you have a diamond disk just cut horizontal or vertical slices into then stone and snap the excess out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted June 6, 2018 Author Share Posted June 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, PeterW said: Cut the stone front back with an SDS or a chisel - if you have a diamond disk just cut horizontal or vertical slices into then stone and snap the excess out. Hey Peter problem is the rubber is all is all over it . I’d end up cutting it . Could do that and patch it ???? Lol - I just texted my wife so was in ‘wife’ mode . At the end of the above message I put kisses . I promptly deleted them ! . Back in buildhub mode ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted June 6, 2018 Author Share Posted June 6, 2018 Unsticking this without tearing not possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted June 7, 2018 Author Share Posted June 7, 2018 Ffs ! tnt ; next day delivery ; turns up 3 days late . Ordered 3 items , but am expecting 4 parcels ? ; just flashing has turned up Just placed it in grove too see - need to cut deeper . Also to get ‘over’ the stone bumps recon I can ‘hammer’ around them and deform the metal . No one ever sees it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted June 7, 2018 Author Share Posted June 7, 2018 (edited) Ok ! got the first length in pretty good ! Over the worse of the lumps will stick ct1 all along the top and into the slot By pure chance a roofer was parked nearby so I grabbed him . Once he finished laughing he said as the flashing is below my block pavers that I should put a fibre expansion joint in front the flashing . So the concrete stops short and the expansion joint will allow any water that does get in to evaporate otherwise without it I might get the capillary action . This sound right ? If so , after googling ; can’t actually find a product ( he said 3m long 3 Inch high ) cheers Edited June 7, 2018 by pocster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 This? https://www.buildingmaterials.co.uk/bitumen-impregnated-fibre-board.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted June 7, 2018 Author Share Posted June 7, 2018 8 minutes ago, Onoff said: This? https://www.buildingmaterials.co.uk/bitumen-impregnated-fibre-board.html Thanks ! maybe ! I don’t know Is the theory correct though ? Can’t do any harm putting it in can it ???...... Someone with more knowledge please join in ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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