JamesP Posted February 5, 2018 Posted February 5, 2018 Advice appreciated. I have 150 sheets of OSB and another 150 sheets of plasterboard to fit and my brother has lent me a MAKITA DFR550Z. However it is proving not very reliable and I seem to spend more time removing jammed screws. Are these reliable or operator error.
jamiehamy Posted February 5, 2018 Posted February 5, 2018 Not worked with that model but first thing first - what condition is the drive bit in? If worn it will not drive the screws in proper. Are the screws jamming before entering the board or part way through? Also, have you double checked or amended the settings? My Senco has settings for countersink depth and the length or screw being used. I actually have it on 40mm despite slashing 35mm screws - seems to perform better! 1
JamesP Posted February 5, 2018 Author Posted February 5, 2018 Bought new bits, jams once inside board afew mm. set length correctly. Using 38mm screws and set to 40mm. My bro is a bit tough on his tools and it might have gone airborne afew times. 1
Nickfromwales Posted February 5, 2018 Posted February 5, 2018 Im mostly Makita for my entire collection, but the autofeed gun was not their finest hour at all Mine jams a lot, so much so that I carry a long nose pliers in my pocket all the time im using it. The Hilti one is very basic looking in comparison but seems to just keep going from when ive been on site and seen guys using them.
JamesP Posted February 5, 2018 Author Posted February 5, 2018 @Nickfromwales All my tools are Makita except the Dewalt 780 are great, I don't want to give up on it but this one is very time consuming. New purchase necessary. DNTTW.
Nickfromwales Posted February 5, 2018 Posted February 5, 2018 1 minute ago, JamesP said: @Nickfromwales All my tools are Makita except the Dewalt 780 are great, I don't want to give up on it but this one is very time consuming. New purchase necessary. DNTTW. Ive got the 780 XPS shadow line which is the dogs bollocks. The box said "convenient carry handle makes it easily transportable around site". MY ARSE IT DOES!!
Barney12 Posted February 5, 2018 Posted February 5, 2018 James, try and get yourself a Senco duraspin. Absolutely bullet proof, especially if you use the duraspin strips. Not cheap but they sell well second hand on eBay so you'll get a good deal of your cash back. I bought my strips from here on recomendation from this forum: http://www.collatedfasteners.co.uk
JamesP Posted February 5, 2018 Author Posted February 5, 2018 @jamiehamy @Barney12 Which model Senco do you recommend, DS275 18V or DS205 14V. I have 300 + sheets to fix.
Nickfromwales Posted February 5, 2018 Posted February 5, 2018 18V will give longer runs between charges and be a more saleable gun afterwards. Downside, a little bit heavier.
Barney12 Posted February 5, 2018 Posted February 5, 2018 5 minutes ago, JamesP said: @jamiehamy @Barney12 Which model Senco do you recommend, DS275 18V or DS205 14V. I have 300 + sheets to fix. I have the 14v and find the 2 batteries supplied fine. It charges before I've used the first one.
jamiehamy Posted February 5, 2018 Posted February 5, 2018 (edited) I went for the Senco Duraspin DS5525-18V which spins at 2500rpm as opposed to 5000rpm. I was told at the time the lower speed is higher torque and better for hard woods. Obv a bit slower for gyproc but tbh, it was more than fast enough for us! Came with two batteries, plenty of juice and we always had one charging. Edited February 5, 2018 by jamiehamy
Barney12 Posted February 5, 2018 Posted February 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Nickfromwales said: 18V will give longer runs between charges and be a more saleable gun afterwards. Downside, a little bit heavier. Good point regarding re-sale. Mind you I'll probably end up keeping it
Nickfromwales Posted February 5, 2018 Posted February 5, 2018 TBH, I may be interested in buying it off you after your done with it, if you go the 18v route PM me.
JamesP Posted February 5, 2018 Author Posted February 5, 2018 (edited) Ordered DS5525, arrives tomorrow. The task......Vertical 50mm batten + Rockwool to go the left hand side then the OSB. Edited February 5, 2018 by JamesP
Barney12 Posted February 5, 2018 Posted February 5, 2018 1 hour ago, JamesP said: Ordered DS5525, arrives tomorrow. The task......Vertical 50mm batten + Rockwool to go the left hand side then the OSB. Oh deep joy
JamesP Posted February 7, 2018 Author Posted February 7, 2018 @jamiehamy @Barney12 Thanks for your advice. What a great bit of kit.
Construction Channel Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 It seems I may be too late, but for others that may read this in the future, the main reasons the Makitas jam are as follows, -the whole front end isn't on fully, there is a little locating notch at the bottom so make sure it's on all the way, -the little metal bit at the front with the flappy bits has slipped up a little, push it back down and tape it there, -that same metal bit has broken a spring, -the plastic strip holding the screws is too big, depends on the brand but if they don't pull through freely try a different brand - the last, most common and my favourite, it's in reverse, make sure the driver bit is spinning the right way. I use the Makita and "rarely" have issues with it, a lot of my colleagues struggle with it but it's usually because of one of the above issues. when it jams they seem to just keep ramming it into the board making it a lot harder and slower to fix. FWIW I watched a gang of tackers using the Senco guns in the past and they did seem like good bits of kit HTH Ed
JamesP Posted February 8, 2018 Author Posted February 8, 2018 @Construction Channel The reverse button is a classic on the Makita. Will check the other parts.
Nickfromwales Posted February 8, 2018 Posted February 8, 2018 44 minutes ago, JamesP said: @Construction Channel The reverse button is a classic on the Makita. Will check the other parts. Yup lol. Been stood there screaming at it for 5 mins and then realise im trying to send the screws in anti-clockwise 1
Barney12 Posted February 8, 2018 Posted February 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Nickfromwales said: Yup lol. Been stood there screaming at it for 5 mins and then realise im trying to send the screws in anti-clockwise Thanks heavens its not just me. Worse thing is I dropped mine off the tower 3m up. Then picked it up and it wouldn't drive screws. Convinced I'd ruined several hundred pounds worth of tool porn. 20 minutes later, took it out of reverse 2
Nickfromwales Posted February 8, 2018 Posted February 8, 2018 Nothing better than looking for your mobile, whilst talking on it. Or my other favourite which is looking for my van keys whilst holding them and getting irate with people who then say "They're in your hand you dopy tw*t!" 44 yesterday, so it could be age related
Onoff Posted February 13, 2018 Posted February 13, 2018 Too much money on here! Down in the cheap seats...Parkside...doesn't miss a beat! Don't go mad & lubricate with this; Co-op cheapest: 1
Nickfromwales Posted February 13, 2018 Posted February 13, 2018 Clive....some of those screws are a few mm difference on centres. Best take them out and do it agin I think. Don't want standards slipping eh? PS, what length are those screws ?
PeterW Posted February 13, 2018 Posted February 13, 2018 Those top screws aren’t evenly spaced ......
Nickfromwales Posted February 13, 2018 Posted February 13, 2018 He did those ones AFTER drinking the penguins blood.......
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