Own tools on day rate?

[flanagaj]

If you are paying trades on day rate, should they be expected to bring their own equipment?  Eg, should a groundworker bring their own laser level and if so, should you expect to be charged hire or should this be in their day rate.  I've got a good laser level and all my own equipment, but I really don't want other people using it.   

Edited 3 hours ago by flanagaj

[Oz07]

Massively depends. A subby bricky may or may not supply a mixer likewise a laser too. Don't discount someone just because they don't supply these things they may be a skilled tradesman. 

Now if they start saying they haven't got a trowel or a level that's when you've got to worry. 

Not sure why but joiners usually supply everything they would need and are usually anal about their kit 

[-rick-]

6 minutes ago, Oz07 said:

Not sure why but joiners usually supply everything they would need and are usually anal about their kit 

 

Where precision/accuracy/sharpness matters people want to use things that they are comfortable with.

[JohnMo]

All our trades supplied their own tools, they were responsible for accuracy. If they were after additional costs for tool hire - bye bye, would find a different company.

 

1 hour ago, flanagaj said:

should a groundworker bring their own laser level and if so, should you expect to be charged hire or should this be in their day rate

Yes, and the digger and everything else they need. I would expect the basis of the scope to be fully coated and an agreed fixed cost.

[Nickfromwales]

2 hours ago, flanagaj said:

If you are paying trades on day rate, should they be expected to bring their own equipment?  Eg, should a groundworker bring their own laser level and if so, should you expect to be charged hire or should this be in their day rate.  I've got a good laser level and all my own equipment, but I really don't want other people using it.   

Edited 2 hours ago by flanagaj

OK. What's provoked the question? Have you been asked / told to provide anything, or is this a 'pre-worry' only?

 

Most trades salivate over a splendid tool collection, with most having all available gadgets that save them time / money and max profitability.

 

If they ask you for plant, like heavy SDS max breakers or petrol disc cutters (and blades) then this is perfectly normal. Festoon lighting, a 100v transformer and leads etc, plus first aid and eyewash stations is down to you. You'll be expected to offer some oil for the cogs, but not to feed and burp them.

 

Read the small print in quotes; if there isn't any then ask why.

[flanagaj]

39 minutes ago, Nickfromwales said:

OK. What's provoked the question? Have you been asked / told to provide anything, or is this a 'pre-worry' only?

 

Most trades salivate over a splendid tool collection, with most having all available gadgets that save them time / money and max profitability.

 

If they ask you for plant, like heavy SDS max breakers or petrol disc cutters (and blades) then this is perfectly normal. Festoon lighting, a 100v transformer and leads etc, plus first aid and eyewash stations is down to you. You'll be expected to offer some oil for the cogs, but not to feed and burp them.

 

Read the small print in quotes; if there isn't any then ask why.

I used a groundworker recently and he didn't bring any tools.  He and his labourer were constantly asking if they could use this and that.  So many of tools ended up covered in mud.  In the end I did say "do you not have your own tools".   It's a conversation that I shouldn't need to have.