Critique my floor plan

[Oz07]

Working with an existing footprint so want to keep the same size. 7.25 deep x 10.25 wide after dry lining internally. 

 

Want to keep front elevation symmetrical although not particularly fussed on elevation till I get floor plan sorted. Keeping option of 2nd floor open although highly unlikely will be used. 

 

Kitchen diner 3.2m x 8.4m

Utility 3.2 x 1.8

Lounge 4.5 x 3.9

Office 3.5 x 2.8

 

B1 4.5 x 3.6

B2 3.6 x 3.5

B3 3.6 x 3.2

B4 2.4 x 2.5

 

Rear is south, probably have big central doors in middle of that kitchen diner. Utility / plant room on opposite side of kitchen not ideal but dont actually go in there that much in current house for cooking related tasks. More to put washing on or get dog lead etc. Would likely jack and Jill downstairs cloakroom and put a shower in then would likely use b4 as study and gf study as b4. Handy for elderly relatives and keep guests out the way. Maybe need a pocket door?

 

I'm pretty pleased with it at end of the day I think there's only so much you can do with a 1600 odd sq ft box. Had planned to show robes in planning drawings for vat reclaim. Will likely exclude gf shower so planners don't think I'm going for 5 bed. Any other planning tips that you should show in drawings so can claim back?

[Mr Punter]

Where we are you have to have an accessible ground floor WC with outward opening door that can be made into a shower room.  Probably 1.6m x 1.8m.

 

Better not to have the kitchen open to the stairs, so add a door.

[-rick-]

Some initial thoughts:

 

1. I don't like the blue area. Was thinking you could move the bathroom over a bit to avoid it but then realised you might have regs problems with the door directly at the top of the stairs. Not actually sure pushing the door back as you've done is good enough for regs.

2. Doors to the bathrooms seem awkward, especially the en-suite. Guess a pocket door makes it work but maybe better layout options available.

3. Feel like there might be some better layout options overall but still thinking.

 

[Oz07]

16 minutes ago, Mr Punter said:

Where we are you have to have an accessible ground floor WC with outward opening door that can be made into a shower room.  Probably 1.6m x 1.8m.

 

Better not to have the kitchen open to the stairs, so add a door.

Here its just gf cloaks unless things have changed.

Yeh I would deffo have a glazed door there at end of hall, possibly a pair as I like the thought of keeping understairs open for spacious feel. Nice view from front door to garden then. 

[-rick-]

20 minutes ago, -rick- said:

3. Feel like there might be some better layout options overall but still thinking.

 

Along these lines. Putting the stairs on the other side of the corridor might open up some flexibility as well.

 

Edit: Personally, I'm quite keen on clustering bathrooms for ease of service routing, but even if that isn't a concern an arrangement similar to this provides the master with a buffer from noises from the shared bathroom and removes all bathroom noise from the bedroom adjoining the master.

 

Btw, it's not entirely clear which room is which, the measurements didn't make sense to me.

 

Edited 4 hours ago by -rick-

[Oz07]

18 minutes ago, -rick- said:

Some initial thoughts:

 

1. I don't like the blue area. Was thinking you could move the bathroom over a bit to avoid it but then realised you might have regs problems with the door directly at the top of the stairs. Not actually sure pushing the door back as you've done is good enough for regs.

2. Doors to the bathrooms seem awkward, especially the en-suite. Guess a pocket door makes it work but maybe better layout options available.

3. Feel like there might be some better layout options overall but still thinking.

 

Yeh blue area probably absorbed into robes so not an issue. Or I could pinch 600 odd mm of bed 2, split in in half and have half robes for b2 and half for b3. Evens out the bedroom sizes then. 

 

Ensuite door not great but keep in mind could be 686mm if swinging. There is 800mm between that bed and wall. Tbf pocket door prob a better option as I never shut any door when i shower or use the bathroom anyway. Door would just be in the way when open

[Oz07]

3 minutes ago, -rick- said:

 

Along these lines. Putting the stairs on the other side of the corridor might open up some flexibility as well.

 

B1 feels a bit boxed in there 

[-rick-]

Just now, Oz07 said:

There is 800mm between that bed and wall.

 

The cupboards are on your plan to the right which might make this area pretty awkward.

 

Personally I would go for larger doors if you want to market the property. Some people would be put off by small seeming ones.

[Oz07]

Would uvc actually be better in ac or plant room? Guessing plant room but not much else to do with that space. Getting ahead of myself not but ufh manifold better in plant room?

[-rick-]

1 minute ago, Oz07 said:

B1 feels a bit boxed in there 

 

Yeh it's not perfect but my thought was not to steal space from the room, just reorient the space. I'm not doing this with a ruler so very handwavy. There is likely room to optimise space use between the two bathrooms if they back onto each other, etc.

[-rick-]

4 minutes ago, Oz07 said:

Would uvc actually be better in ac or plant room? Guessing plant room but not much else to do with that space. Getting ahead of myself not but ufh manifold better in plant room?

 

Ideally UVC should be optimally placed for short pipe runs to the bathrooms/kitchen. Wherever that is (up or downstairs doesn't matter).

 

I'm sure others will disagree with me but UFH manifold should be central and if that's not where the plant room is so be it. Can be built into a cupboard/bump-out/etc. Does need to be accessible but can be remote from other plant (unless you want to do lots of zoning or other complexity which this forum advocates against).

Edited 4 hours ago by -rick-

[Oz07]

7 minutes ago, -rick- said:

 

Ideally UVC should be optimally placed for short pipe runs to the bathrooms/kitchen. Wherever that is (up or downstairs doesn't matter).

 

I'm sure others will disagree with me but UFH manifold should be central and if that's not where the plant room is so be it. Can be built into a cupboard/bump-out/etc. Does need to be accessible but can be remote from other plant (unless you want to do lots of zoning or other complexity which this forum advocates against).

Reason I ask about ufh manifold is because gf cloaks is a bit long. If I squeeze the length 3 or 400mm I could gain a good central cupboard accessed off halfway behind shower. Basically ensuite and gf cloaks is carbon copy then can just order 2 of everything.