Avalon local LLM

[MikeSharp01]

12 minutes ago, Pocster said:

Bit like giving an 8 yr old a chainsaw and then telling them to chop trees….

You might see it that way BUT there is very little research I have seen that shows that people without any coding skills can drive LLM code developers successfully - ie taking the basic output of requirements engineering, in English if you like, and just expecting a fully worked solution. So I speculate that what we have is apparent, stress apparent, productivity improvements for the coders that are left but where that productivity as measured by the normal metrics is coming out much less than expectations and that may in the medium term, because of maintainability, be even less. This is not to say I would advise cutting back on LLM coding but rather seeing it for what it is - more of a challenge than expected as it is now. The advent of more " agentic" LLM coding along the road Codex seems to be heading will change the perspective again. Anyways it's all good clean fun and I am off for cream cakes and lashings of ginger beer - tallyho.

[Pocster]

1 hour ago, MikeSharp01 said:

Anyways it's all good clean fun and I am off for cream cakes and lashings of ginger beer - tallyho.

Why not! Its hot! I'm in the garden fighting chat. I actually got it to say "I cant do it we need a coder with repo access". I beat the bitch into submission. We'd been trying and failing for 15 minutes.

I asked it what it needed. Gave me a 'sed','tail','cat' answer. I did it manually in terminal uploaded it. 60 seconds later fixed.

But yes "no coding skills" with an LLM is only going to get you toy stuff. Remember OpenAi said 70% of chat is written by chat and they expect that to be 100% soon. So the SE/coder role now changes to LLM manager/architect/controller.

But yes ; I assume even Claude can get it's knickers in a twist!

But from how I was using chat just 12 months ago (and its capability then ) to today is phenomenal !

We go do rabbit holes and poor design decisions. Sometimes it does things I didn't ask and when I find out later I tell it where to go!

But! - what I am achieving in terms of work flow with zero human coding is pretty magical even if not completely local yet. Imagine where it will all be just 12 months from now!

Oh! , I can hear the clink of ice in a G n T ....... 

[Pocster]

Then you get sweet moments where 15 patches all go straight through 😎