Sand & Cement vs Liquid screed - which is best? (70mm)

[Great_scot_selfbuild]

I'm getting quotes for both sand & cement and liquid screed floor layer over our UFH.

 

The depth was going to be 75mm, but it turns out my principal designer failed to take into account that the screed needs a layer of self-levelling compound on top before we lay our LVT, so I've been advised by multiple screed companies to allow for at least 5mm as I can always add SL Compound. Therefore, working back from the FFL and 5mm LVT, with 150mm PIR, we'll be needing 70mm of screed.

 

The initial costs I've had back aren't as different as I expected:

 

Area = 130sqm

 

If cost wasn't a deciding factor, what would you choose and why?

[Mr Punter]

I like traditional sand cement screed.  75mm is quite thick for liquid screed.  If you go liquid, use Cemfloor as there is no laitance removal needed.  I have used Sigma Screed in the past and they were very good.

[Nickfromwales]

Use my mate for the dry screed and you can pretty much paint it green and play snooker on it.

 

You won’t need a full bed of SLC, your LVT installers will just use feathering compound wherever necessary (LINK) so less time and complexity and then it’s easier to manage trades.

 

You should only need to do a full layer of SLC if you’re putting LVT down over a concrete slab.
 

A good screeder will give you the result you want, save you time, and money. 

[Great_scot_selfbuild]

2 hours ago, Mr Punter said:

 

I like traditional sand cement screed.

 

Any particular reason?

 

1 hour ago, Nickfromwales said:

your LVT installer

That’ll be us

 

2 hours ago, Mr Punter said:

use Cemfloor as there is no laitance removal needed.

The quote I have is from a recommended cemfloor installer - whilst he said theees no laitance, it does still need keying-in, which is what his £1105 is quoting for. 
 

1 hour ago, Nickfromwales said:

Use my mate for the dry screed

Estimate was iro £4k before laitance removal. 

[Nickfromwales]

6 minutes ago, Great_scot_selfbuild said:

Estimate was iro £4k before laitance removal

There is no laitance with a dry screed?

 

7 minutes ago, Great_scot_selfbuild said:

Any particular reason?

More accuracy, better finish, no follow up to get it ready, generally just better outcome. 
 

Also, it’s not a liquid, so less prep as it doesn’t want to find a gap and disappear down / into it.

 

8 minutes ago, Great_scot_selfbuild said:

That’ll be us

Then make life easy!

 

9 minutes ago, Great_scot_selfbuild said:

whilst he said there’s no laitance, it does still need keying-in, which is what his £1105 is quoting for.

Not sure what that’s all about. Last few cemfloor installs I’ve been on just needed sealing / priming etc. 

[Nickfromwales]

3 hours ago, Great_scot_selfbuild said:

I've been advised by multiple screed companies to allow for at least 5mm as I can always add SL Compound

This only matters at openings, and with a dry screed you can put a line of masking tape and draw a line across it and tell them to screed to that line. 
 

And they will.

 

Then just feather the few places where it needs it, nothings ever perfect, and off to go.