3000%hike on rubble landfill

[nod]

If stupid was an Olympic sport 

This government would win a gold medal 

[Big Jimbo]

Have our fantastic government just announced that. That will put the muck away, skip, etc prices up.

[nod]

21 minutes ago, Big Jimbo said:

Have our fantastic government just announced that. That will put the muck away, skip, etc prices up.

My thoughts exactly 

[Roger440]

Average of £22-28K per new house. Apparantly.

 

 

[JamesP]

1 hour ago, nod said:

If stupid was an Olympic sport 

This government would win a gold medal 

Yep, a race to the bottom and we are winning.

Their is a lower and standard rate depending on qualifying materials.

 

Edited Thursday at 20:30 by JamesP

[nod]

1 hour ago, JamesP said:

Yep, a race to the bottom and we are winning.

Their is a lower and standard rate depending on qualifying materials.

 

Tip of the iceberg 

[SteamyTea]

So where has this 30 fold increase in price come from?

Was it some recent legislation?

[nod]

53 minutes ago, SteamyTea said:

So where has this 30 fold increase in price come from?

Was it some recent legislation?

I was listening to Andrew Marr and he was discussing it Not yet legislation But as likely as a wealth tax 

Sounded like a done deal for next month 

Is there going to be anything left for Nigel 

[saveasteading]

1 hour ago, nod said:

listening to Andrew Marr and he was discussing it

I have looked but can't find this story.

Could be a windfall tax on developers. The landowner effectively pays. Field worth 30,000 is suddenly worth 500,000.

[nod]

11 minutes ago, saveasteading said:

I have looked but can't find this story.

Could be a windfall tax on developers. The landowner effectively pays. Field worth 30,000 is suddenly worth 500,000.

No

£4 a tone now Going to increase 

I didn’t here the whole interview 

But I think the argument was that housing built on redeveloped sites would increase in price Which seems at odds with this government’s housing policies 

[saveasteading]

OK I've had a very quick read. 

If, if, if.

If all waste at the lowest rate was charged at the highest rate.

That doesn't appear to actually be anyone's proposal, just a "what if" option.

 

If any designers could design with waste in mind..... well some of us do and always have done. AND it was even part of uni training.

 

Eg a motorway is designed with a cut/fill balance. No earth goes off site. By raising of lowering finished levels, widening banks, crushing rock etc.

 

Contractors are usually better than consultants at it because it's their money and they understand reality.

 

Ceiling heights.  How much timber is wasted off a 2.4m or 3.6m or 4.8m or 6m balk? Choose to suit. Changing heights or spans can make a huge difference.

Etc.

 

Any Architects on here want to contribute?

Self builders of course don't waste much on site, but may be stuck with an over-design.

I may add more about skips and waste handlers later.

 

 

 

 

Edited Friday at 09:48 by saveasteading

[SteamyTea]

5 hours ago, saveasteading said:

Contractors are usually better than consultants at it because it's their money and they understand reality

I am responsible for the waste at work.

When I am not there, they soon slip back into old habits.

As an example, we have 3 recycling bins, but our contact is only for 2 to be emptied. So I locked the lid, and put it well out the way, hidden behind 4 other bins.

The dopey pillocks unburied it, forced the lid open and dumped a load of cans in it. 

The other two recycling bins, which were easier to get to, were both about half full.

(expletive deleted)ing morons making hard work for themselves.

 

[saveasteading]

15 minutes ago, SteamyTea said:

morons making hard work for themselves.

And you employ them? 

 

Seriously though. Every construction project should have a waste minimisation plan.

Most involved have some vague understanding that throwing away a brick or the end of a timber stud is waste.

Putting that good brick, or is it hundreds? in a 'rubble only' skip is then regarded as good.

Very few designers give it a thought, leaving it to others.

Recycling can be an excuse instead of not wasting material in the first place.l

[Oz07]

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/tax-building-scrap-homes-target-3978843?ico=most_popular

 

Most waste on a newbuild building site is pretty easy to segregate. If you're careful you don't need many mixed waste skips. 

[nod]

12 hours ago, Oz07 said:

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/tax-building-scrap-homes-target-3978843?ico=most_popular

 

Most waste on a newbuild building site is pretty easy to segregate. If you're careful you don't need many mixed waste skips. 

Yeah

I think it applies more to large scale urban renewal 

Most new developments have thousand of ton of waste taken from site But that’s mostly Clay and isn’t effected by this FOR NOW

[saveasteading]

2 hours ago, nod said:

mostly Clay and isn’t effected by this FOR NOW

When it is expensive to remove, then reuse or different methods will be thought about.

[saveasteading]

14 hours ago, Oz07 said:

don't need many mixed waste skips. 

The waste companies can do rather well out of mixed skips. I've been to one where they tip the contents under cover and sort it. 30% air is a bonus.

At the end they have it all sorted for mostly reuse. 10% then goes for burying or burning.

Figures very approximate.

 

@nod. Ever had the skip driver complain you had packed it too heavy? Good job say I.