flanagaj Posted Monday at 18:07 Posted Monday at 18:07 So having decided that I should apply for a **** EA discharge permit, they have asked where is the nearest sewage connection point to the property and also want a reference. Southern Water use digdat and I purchased a utility search from them before I purchased the land. But as expected, there is no foul water services. From what I can see digdat only provide a search within a given vicinity of your search location and they don't provide a search for something that is probably 2 miles away. Southern Water won't provide the info, but say I can travel to their office in Worthing (2 hour drive) are the clowns for real? Anyone else know how I can obtain "National grid reference (NGR) for the nearest sewer system." Why don't they just allow me to put "> 30 metres, see attached digdat asset map." We haven't even started and I have had enough. At leas the build will be more in my control.
ToughButterCup Posted Monday at 19:02 Posted Monday at 19:02 Who decided you need to apply for a Discharge Permit? You, or The Environment Agency ? If you, then why? Why in any case do you (or the EA) think you need a Discharge Certificate? Are you really going to discharge more than 5000 litres a day? Really? (see General Binding Rules here : Rule 2)
flanagaj Posted Monday at 19:24 Author Posted Monday at 19:24 20 minutes ago, ToughButterCup said: Who decided you need to apply for a Discharge Permit? You, or The Environment Agency ? If you, then why? Why in any case do you (or the EA) think you need a Discharge Certificate? Are you really going to discharge more than 5000 litres a day? Really? (see General Binding Rules here : Rule 2) We are unfortunately 42m downhill for an ancient woodland, GBR state it has to be 50m. Unfortunately, I cannot move the field so not sure what the alternative is.
Alan Ambrose Posted Monday at 19:38 Posted Monday at 19:38 Although they took forever and their web system 'lost' my application, I found EA were actually quite helpful in the end and corrected my answers to their questions and checked to be sure that I agreed they were right. So, suggest just the grid ref for the nearest village which probably has a sewer. 1
flanagaj Posted Monday at 19:44 Author Posted Monday at 19:44 5 minutes ago, Alan Ambrose said: Although they took forever and their web system 'lost' my application, I found EA were actually quite helpful in the end and corrected my answers to their questions and checked to be sure that I agreed they were right. So, suggest just the grid ref for the nearest village which probably has a sewer. Can I ask what the associated charge is. ChatGpt is telling me it is the region of 2-3k for the permit?
flanagaj Posted Monday at 20:52 Author Posted Monday at 20:52 (edited) I need to learn to read!! I have just given myself a great deal of stress and time completing the EA permit form. The Rules state Rule 18: make sure the discharge point is not in or near protected sites You cannot meet the general binding rules if the discharge will be in an ancient woodland or in or within 50 metres of any: special areas of conservation special protection areas Ramsar wetland sites biological sites of special scientific interest (SSSI) It states in an ancient woodland, not within 50 metres of an ancient woodland. Edited Monday at 20:56 by flanagaj
ToughButterCup Posted Tuesday at 06:43 Posted Tuesday at 06:43 Where will the discharge (as opposed to the treatment plant) be? Better said where will the treated water exit the outflow pipe ? As written above, it appears to me that the problem might be solved by lengthening the discharge pipe by a few meters ( in your case at least 5 meters). Ours is 80 meters from the treatment plant.
flanagaj Posted Tuesday at 07:13 Author Posted Tuesday at 07:13 (edited) 31 minutes ago, ToughButterCup said: Where will the discharge (as opposed to the treatment plant) be? Better said where will the treated water exit the outflow pipe ? As written above, it appears to me that the problem might be solved by lengthening the discharge pipe by a few meters ( in your case at least 5 meters). Ours is 80 meters from the treatment plant. There is no problem. The rules state 'within' and ancient woodland. My drainage field is 43m away from the woodland. I just misread and thought the rules meant that you could not have a drainage field within 50m of an ancient woodland. Another EA document, words the statement with better clarity. Edited Tuesday at 07:15 by flanagaj
ToughButterCup Posted Tuesday at 07:24 Posted Tuesday at 07:24 Yes I agree , words and the way they are applied matters. 1
Russell griffiths Posted Tuesday at 07:41 Posted Tuesday at 07:41 Silly old England again. we live in the largest catchment area in the country that is not on a mains sewer, hundreds of houses everyone with its own septic tank. Natural England have just put a blanket SSSI status on the area covering a few thousand acres.
flanagaj Posted Tuesday at 12:22 Author Posted Tuesday at 12:22 4 hours ago, Russell griffiths said: Natural England have just put a blanket SSSI status on the area covering a few thousand acres. That is a joke. If I am correct, does that mean you have to reapply for the permit. If not that, I think it causes existing permit holders a headache?
Russell griffiths Posted Tuesday at 15:34 Posted Tuesday at 15:34 3 hours ago, flanagaj said: That is a joke. If I am correct, does that mean you have to reapply for the permit. If not that, I think it causes existing permit holders a headache? Nope do nothing, Natural England have no money, no staff to either enforce anything or anything else for that matter, it’s just like making more laws but not having a police force. the only thing it is doing is making it increasingly hard to get new planning permission, unless you want to build 2000 houses that is. 1
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