Pocster Posted July 20 Posted July 20 Everyone keeps leaving my pedestrian gate open , so I need a closer . They all seem to fix on the assumption the gate and its ‘sides ‘ ( panels / wall etc ) are inline I.e flush with gate . My gate is recessed . So I need a closer that can deal with that . Not obvious looking online from what I’ve seen which can do this at a reasonable price . Only gate photo I have to hand , but you can see it’s recessed against the quoins ( same on other side )
Pocster Posted July 20 Author Posted July 20 I believe some kind of powered actuator is my best bet ? ( have poe nearby )
Pocster Posted July 22 Author Posted July 22 Where’s all the (expletive deleted)ing engineers and brains ? This is tricky because it’s recessed - come on (expletive deleted) wits !
-rick- Posted July 22 Posted July 22 (edited) How about? https://www.amazon.co.uk/IRONZONE®-Spring-Closer-Adjustable-Tension/dp/B08Z89YK93?sr=8-6 Looks like it will fit in the gap for the hinges? Not recommending the product - was just the first google hit for what I was thinking of. Edited July 22 by -rick-
Roger440 Posted July 22 Posted July 22 Tapered washers under the hinges. Tached to the hinge support. Job fixed.
Pocster Posted July 22 Author Posted July 22 2 minutes ago, -rick- said: How about? https://www.amazon.co.uk/IRONZONE®-Spring-Closer-Adjustable-Tension/dp/B08Z89YK93?sr=8-6 Looks like it will fit in the gap for the hinges? Not recommending the product - was just the first google hit for what I was thinking of. This type of thing was my first thought . But doesn’t the spring have to be flush to the gate ? . Because my gates recessed it wouldn’t work ? - ChatGPT told me that
Pocster Posted July 22 Author Posted July 22 3 minutes ago, Roger440 said: Tapered washers under the hinges. Tached to the hinge support. Job fixed. A washer with a fall effectively ? . That going to provide enough potential energy to cause the gate to close ?? 🤔
Pocster Posted July 22 Author Posted July 22 8 minutes ago, Roger440 said: Tapered washers under the hinges. Tached to the hinge support. Job fixed. ????
ToughButterCup Posted July 22 Posted July 22 A simple spring will do won't it? Image stolen fair and square from TikTok
Pocster Posted July 22 Author Posted July 22 Fabricate a custom rise washer ? Don’t think 3d printing will be strong enough
ProDave Posted July 22 Posted July 22 Rising but hinges (which is what the tapered washer is trying to create 1
Pocster Posted July 22 Author Posted July 22 2 minutes ago, ToughButterCup said: A simple spring will do won't it? Image stolen fair and square from TikTok Apparently not because whilst I can attach to gate there’s nothing to attach to other side I.e no pillar - just the wall . I assume twisting that fixing so it attached to the recess stonework will cause it not to function . Check previous photo
Pocster Posted July 22 Author Posted July 22 1 minute ago, ProDave said: Rising but hinges (which is what the tapered washer is trying to create 1 minute ago, ProDave said: Rising but hinges (which is what the tapered washer is trying to create That might be the easiest method to work - change the hinges . Was looking for a cheaper and lazier solution
-rick- Posted July 22 Posted July 22 Have to say the way they are showing these springs installed isn't the way I was imagining it. Was thinking you'd install the hinge directly inline with the pivot point so the closing force comes from the rotation of the spring. Crudely: Not sure if thats the right product to do this but it does look like you have space for something that does the above.
Pocster Posted July 22 Author Posted July 22 1 minute ago, -rick- said: Have to say the way they are showing these springs installed isn't the way I was imagining it. Was thinking you'd install the hinge directly inline with the pivot point so the closing force comes from the rotation of the spring. Crudely: Not sure if thats the right product to do this but it does look like you have space for something that does the above. Oh ! You’re doing the spring vertical ! I assumed ( in my logic at least ) had to be horizontal I.e from fixed side to gate
-rick- Posted July 22 Posted July 22 The spring might need to be constrained to stop it flopping around and the product I linked doesn't do that. But I'm sure I've seen a spring hinge installed like this before so I'd bet there is a product for this.
Pocster Posted July 22 Author Posted July 22 5 minutes ago, -rick- said: Have to say the way they are showing these springs installed isn't the way I was imagining it. Was thinking you'd install the hinge directly inline with the pivot point so the closing force comes from the rotation of the spring. Crudely: Not sure if thats the right product to do this but it does look like you have space for something that does the above. This type of thing ?
ProDave Posted July 22 Posted July 22 How about this sort https://www.amazon.co.uk/Automatic-Adjustable-Stopper-Commercial-Adjusting/dp/B0DKWV536P?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=A3D385E63SY2UI The spring mechanism would screw to your pillar and the arm would push against the gate. Might need to search a bit harder for an outdoor version that is likely to withstand weather. 1
-rick- Posted July 22 Posted July 22 1 minute ago, Pocster said: This type of thing ? Thats a different take on it but I can see that working, though how long that one lasts IDK, seems a little light weight.
Pocster Posted July 22 Author Posted July 22 3 minutes ago, ProDave said: How about this sort https://www.amazon.co.uk/Automatic-Adjustable-Stopper-Commercial-Adjusting/dp/B0DKWV536P?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=A3D385E63SY2UI The spring mechanism would screw to your pillar and the arm would push against the gate. Might need to search a bit harder for an outdoor version that is likely to withstand weather. Maybe ! Worth a look
Pocster Posted July 22 Author Posted July 22 1 minute ago, -rick- said: Thats a different take on it but I can see that working, though how long that one lasts IDK, seems a little light weight. Yeah looks a bit budget ! I guess the gate weighs 50kg so need something hardcore
-rick- Posted July 22 Posted July 22 (edited) Checked all these? https://www.fhbrundle.co.uk/gate-hardware/gate-closers This one looks like it replaces your hinges https://www.fhbrundle.co.uk/products/05GC40__Locinox_Closer_40_-_Includes_Top_and_Bottom_Brackets Edited July 22 by -rick-
-rick- Posted July 22 Posted July 22 35 minutes ago, Pocster said: Where’s all the (expletive deleted)ing engineers and brains ? This is tricky because it’s recessed - come on (expletive deleted) wits ! Look what you've done now! 1
Pocster Posted July 22 Author Posted July 22 Back to this type of thing . Assuming it can be mounted 90 degrees to the gate …
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