MikeSharp01 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 I am having a 'discussion' with our BR supplier about what sign offs are included, what I can certify myself to their satisfaction and what I have to seek elsewhere. I guess its about having all the paperwork completed before sign off. I have my list but I am not sure it is complete so thought I would put it out there by way of checking: Windows install - so do not need installation by FENSA certified team. Electrical install - so I do not need electrical sign off by electrician (as it happens I will get this done by my brother-in-law) but for completeness it is included here. Gas install - don't think this is ever in the BR peoples scope as needs gas safe qualification. Oil fueled install - I don't have one but it is here for completeness. Solid fuel install - I don't have one but it is here for completeness. Pressure vessel (UVC etc) install - so I don't need a plumber to sign it off. Water install from meter. - not sure there are any regs here but just in case. Sewerage connection - so I don't need involve the water company, other than inform them. Waste water and general plumbing, flows & trap sucking ect - always assumed this was part of the sign off by BR anyway but could be wrong! Ventilation system balance - so I can do it myself. Ventilation system compliance - always assumed this was part of the sign off by BR anyway but could be wrong! Air tightness - So, assuming I can trace the pressure and airflow sensors to national standard, I don't need a third party to do this. Sound insulation - not sure even how to test this but can't be rocket science, can it? So I don't need a specialist again. CO2 Energy Performance certificate - I wanted to do these but as I needed the pre-build one quickly I have already paid for this and the final one. Water use certificate - I wanted to do these but as I needed the pre-build one quickly I have already paid for this and the final one. What have I missed - probably something glaring! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 I thought in England and Wales you needed part P sign off for electrics. In Scotland you just need an EIC from the electrician. At my last house BC were okay with a DIY oil boiler install, but I had to get an OFTEC engineer to "commission" the boiler later in order for the manufacturer to honour a warranty claim and give the 5 year warranty (needed a complete replacement boiler due to a leak inside the boiler) BC here usually want to witness a pressure test on the drains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 (edited) In England it's very much up to the BCO what third parties need to be involved. In theory a BCO can sign off everything themselves but they frequently ask you to involve an expert when they are unsure about something for whatever reason or just to cover their backside. You can try arguing but in the end it's down to you to show compliance so if they say you need a particular expert to check or certify something you will probably have to get it done. Edited December 14, 2017 by Temp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_MK Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 On 12/14/2017 at 12:52, MikeSharp01 said: BR supplier Hi, i take it that means "building reg supplier" Isnt that the council or building control ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Harris Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 9 minutes ago, Ed_MK said: Hi, i take it that means "building reg supplier" Isnt that the council or building control ? Could be either LABC, the pseudo company set up when building control was privatised, or a building control company (there are lots around). LABC is the new name for the trading body within the local authority that provide self-funded building control services (i.e. they are not tax-payer funded for normal building control activity, but funded from the fees they charge). There's only one difference between a true private building control company and your local branch of LABC, and that is that only LABC have any enforcement powers. The private building control companies can pass or fail something, but have no powers of enforcement for a persistent failure to comply, so they have to pass that to LABC to deal with (most rarely bother to do this, I think). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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