Global Carbon Dioxided By Sector

[SteamyTea]

It is almost the end of the year, so a new chart is out from wri.org.

The interactive is here.

 

Don't beat yourselves up about concrete and flying, that is not the main problem.

 

[MikeSharp01]

9 minutes ago, SteamyTea said:

The interactive is here.

Insightful, interesting, depressing. 

[SteamyTea]

9 minutes ago, MikeSharp01 said:

depressing

I have not looked at the raw data, but it seems that most sectors have a lower CO₂ per capita lower than previous years.  That is a good thing as it means we are getting more efficient at producing.

Now the naysayers will be along and claim that the problem is population, and if we just reduce that, then everything will be fine.

Well we had half the population in 1974, but over half the emissions (20 Gt, 38 Gt).  While not good that we produce more gases, it shows that we can be much more efficient.

[ProDave]

Too much data not presented clearly.

 

The things I took from it though is transport is NOT the biggest contributor, but the way it is being taxed and penalised you would think it was.  Instead it is just the easiest to tax and blame and try and shame people into travelling less.

 

It is actually housing that is the worst, why are houses not being taxed like cars depending on their energy usage?  And "poor" houses banned from cities?  (Rhetorical question not expecting an answer)

 

[joe90]

2 hours ago, ProDave said:

It is actually housing that is the worst, why are houses not being taxed like cars depending on their energy usage?  And "poor" houses banned from cities? 

Because the poorest people live in the poorest houses and taxing them more would be seen as unfair (IMO). Council tax is a way of taxing more for the bigger houses but perhaps we need to differentiate BETTER houses that pollute less fir council tax bands. 

[JohnMo]

2 hours ago, ProDave said:

things I took from it though is transport is NOT the biggest contributor, but the way it is being taxed and penalised you would think it was.  Instead it is just the easiest to tax and blame and try and shame people into travelling less.

 

It is actually housing that is the worst

Are you sure?

Residential building are 7.5% while roads are 11.8%

[MikeSharp01]

You can see we have the brakes on in many areas but my depression really flows from the hill we still have to climb and too may people not taking it seriously - either 'its not a problem' or 'someone will come along with a solution and all will be well' seem to be the responses of too many fellow travellers. 

[joe90]

31 minutes ago, MikeSharp01 said:

'someone will come along with a solution and all will be well' seem to be the responses of too many fellow travellers. 

But not us build hubbers eh?

[ProDave]

I keep going on about housing perhaps because I speak from a position of smugness that I live in a low energy house heated by a heat pump and with solar PV to self generate a lot of our own energy.  Compared to out last house, heated by oil, I have saved more CO2 emissions building this house than I would if I stopped driving completely.

 

But even new houses I still don't see the many, let alone all being built to the same standard mine was.  So the problem is most definitely not being taken seriously.  And that is even before anyone dares suggest how we are going to tackle the old poor quality UK housing stock and who is going to pay. 

 

That data set in the OP gave a total figure somewhere of 16% for housing which is where I made my comparison then went on to break it down into subsets which is where someone picked up a lower figure.

 

I think my point when moaning about the future of transport, is moving to a low energy house made no change to my lifestyle, or any change it did make was positive.  Any such changes to future transport are largely negative in terms of cost and convenience to the end user.

[MikeSharp01]

Just now, joe90 said:

But not us build hubbers eh?

No there might be one or two but most on here think its a real thing and so also a real problem.

[joe90]

16 minutes ago, ProDave said:

I keep going on about housing

So when are you converting your MGB to Electric 🤷‍♂️. Just joking (. It would be sacrilege) my kit car does 28MPG if I am lucky but i do about 500 miles a year at most and every one with a broad grin on my face.  My main car is diesel but changing it will create  even more CO2 emissions (plus I cant afford an EV). 

[ProDave]

But given that my daily driver is now a Toyota Hilux pickup, the MG is my economical summer run about.