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Hi I’m interested in thoughts. £14k to put in full electrics in a new build as itemised below. Seems pricey, although quite a lot going on….

Appreciate thoughts…

 

LOUNGE:
6no. Double socket outlets
4no. 5 Amp socket outlets
1no. RJ45 outlet
1no. Telephone outlet
1no. TV outlet
1no. 3 Gang dimmer switch
1no. Pendant light fitting
4no. LED downlights
1no. Smoke alarm
FRONT HALLWAY:
1no. Double socket outlet
3no. LED downlights
1no. 1 Gang rocker light switch
1no. 2 Gang rocker light switch
1no. Smoke alarm
HALLWAY:
2no. LED downlights
2no. 1 Gang rocker light switches
2no. 2 Gang rocker light switches
1no. Smoke alarm
RISER CUPBOARD:
1no. Fire rated distribution board with RCD and SPD protection.
1no. 25mm 3-core SWA sub-mains supply with isolator.
5no. CAT6 (RJ45) leads to router
1no. Telephone outlet
1no. Extractor fan isolator
1no. Electrical installation certificate
1no. Earth bonding to incoming Gas & Water supply stop cocks.
BATHROOM:
4no. IP-rated LED downlights
1no. Extractor fan
1no. Mirror light supply.
KITCHEN:
4no. Double socket outlets
5no. Single socket outlets (fridge, washing machine, extractor hood, dishwasher, hob ignition).
5no. Switched fused spurs (as above).
1no. Cooker isolator 
1no. Cooker outlet
2no. Under unit LED tape light
6no. LED downlights
1no. 3 Gang dimmer light switch
1no. Heat alarm
DINING AREA:
4no. Double socket outlets
1no. Future lift supply
3no. LED downlights
1no. RJ45 outlet
1no. 3 Gang rocker light switch
EXTERNAL:
4no. Up/down lights
4no. Mini floodlights
1no. Wall mounted spotlight
1no. Dusk to dawn photocell sensor
1no. External 1 gang rocker light switch

1st FLOOR:
STAIRWELL:
4no. LED downlights
HALLWAY:
2no. 1 Gang rocker light switch
1no. 2 Gang rocker light switch
1no. Fan isolator
2no. LED downlights
1no. Smoke alarm
FRONT BEDROOM:
5no. Double socket outlets
1no. RJ45 outlet
1no. TV outlet
5no. LED downlights
3no. 5 Amp outlets
2no. 1 Gang rocker light switch
1no. 2 Gang dimmer light switch
BATHROOM:
5no. IP-rated LED downlights
1no. Mirror light supply
1no. Extractor fan
REAR BEDROOM:
5no. Double socket outlets
1no. TV outlet
2no. RJ45 outlets
7no. LED downlights
1no. 1 Gang dimmer switch
LOFT AREA:
1no. Double socket outlet
1no. 1 Gang rocker switch
2no. 5' LED batten fluorescent light fittings
1no. Digital loft aerial
1no. Aerial splitter

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Is this supply all materiel aswell? Have you sat down and added up the materiel?  It looks a pretty straightforward spec nothing to fancy. 

First thoughts it's a expensive but more experienced people will be along in a minute.

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I count 154 "points"  I used to estimate on the basis of 1 hour per point. So 154 hours.

 

I am out of touch with labour rates "down south" but a few years ago I would be quoting just under £5K for the labour for that.  I would guarantee southern rates will be a lot higher than that, £7K for labour would not surprise me in the least.

 

Materials will add up, they could easily be another £7K depending what you want.

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Labour rates dahn saff are very high.

A skilled sole operator will be looking at £300 a day and 8 effective hours is pushing it. 

@ProDave 's 150 hours x £40 = £6k. And prob quote higher than that.

A business will be 40% more, so £8.4k or more. Plus vat.

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>>> 8 effective hours is pushing it

 

3 hours of work on a good day + 1 hour going to the trade counter + 1 hour general chat + 1 hour on the phone to new potential and old tee-ed off clients + 1 hour on social media + 1 hour making an influencer video?

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1 hour ago, Alan Ambrose said:

>>> 8 effective hours is pushing it

 

3 hours of work on a good day + 1 hour going to the trade counter + 1 hour general chat + 1 hour on the phone to new potential and old tee-ed off clients + 1 hour on social media + 1 hour making an influencer video?

It saddens me how little regard people have for tradesmen.  You think they are all a lazy overcharging bunch of wasters?

 

I had always preferred to charge by the hour rather than the day, that way I do 7 hours, you pay for 7 hours.  I also preferred to give estimates not quotes so again you only pay for what the job takes.  Every time I have mentioned this I get shot down and told people prefer a fixed price.

 

I always got the vast majority of my work through word of mouth and recommendations.  That is the lifeblood of most sole traders.  If you really have such a low opinion of them, don't recommendation, and they will soon be out of business.

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3 minutes ago, ProDave said:

You think they are all a lazy overcharging bunch of wasters?

I don't mean to imply 'all' , and a good 7 hours is better than a bad 8.

 

But I've been doing this a long time (in SE) and a lot of trades and professions take it easy esp now the Eastern Europeans have gone.

The greatest contrast in efficiency and value is between Scottish and SE English lawyers.

 

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22 hours ago, ag1976 said:

Hi I’m interested in thoughts. £14k to put in full electrics in a new build as itemised below. Seems pricey, although quite a lot going on….

Appreciate thoughts…

 

LOUNGE:
6no. Double socket outlets
4no. 5 Amp socket outlets
1no. RJ45 outlet
1no. Telephone outlet
1no. TV outlet
1no. 3 Gang dimmer switch
1no. Pendant light fitting
4no. LED downlights
1no. Smoke alarm
FRONT HALLWAY:
1no. Double socket outlet
3no. LED downlights
1no. 1 Gang rocker light switch
1no. 2 Gang rocker light switch
1no. Smoke alarm
HALLWAY:
2no. LED downlights
2no. 1 Gang rocker light switches
2no. 2 Gang rocker light switches
1no. Smoke alarm
RISER CUPBOARD:
1no. Fire rated distribution board with RCD and SPD protection.
1no. 25mm 3-core SWA sub-mains supply with isolator.
5no. CAT6 (RJ45) leads to router
1no. Telephone outlet
1no. Extractor fan isolator
1no. Electrical installation certificate
1no. Earth bonding to incoming Gas & Water supply stop cocks.
BATHROOM:
4no. IP-rated LED downlights
1no. Extractor fan
1no. Mirror light supply.
KITCHEN:
4no. Double socket outlets
5no. Single socket outlets (fridge, washing machine, extractor hood, dishwasher, hob ignition).
5no. Switched fused spurs (as above).
1no. Cooker isolator 
1no. Cooker outlet
2no. Under unit LED tape light
6no. LED downlights
1no. 3 Gang dimmer light switch
1no. Heat alarm
DINING AREA:
4no. Double socket outlets
1no. Future lift supply
3no. LED downlights
1no. RJ45 outlet
1no. 3 Gang rocker light switch
EXTERNAL:
4no. Up/down lights
4no. Mini floodlights
1no. Wall mounted spotlight
1no. Dusk to dawn photocell sensor
1no. External 1 gang rocker light switch

1st FLOOR:
STAIRWELL:
4no. LED downlights
HALLWAY:
2no. 1 Gang rocker light switch
1no. 2 Gang rocker light switch
1no. Fan isolator
2no. LED downlights
1no. Smoke alarm
FRONT BEDROOM:
5no. Double socket outlets
1no. RJ45 outlet
1no. TV outlet
5no. LED downlights
3no. 5 Amp outlets
2no. 1 Gang rocker light switch
1no. 2 Gang dimmer light switch
BATHROOM:
5no. IP-rated LED downlights
1no. Mirror light supply
1no. Extractor fan
REAR BEDROOM:
5no. Double socket outlets
1no. TV outlet
2no. RJ45 outlets
7no. LED downlights
1no. 1 Gang dimmer switch
LOFT AREA:
1no. Double socket outlet
1no. 1 Gang rocker switch
2no. 5' LED batten fluorescent light fittings
1no. Digital loft aerial
1no. Aerial splitter

Ours 195m² was £13k quote in 2020, but had quite a bit of extra work done to add another 50% to the bill. But was happy overall.

 

1 hour ago, Alan Ambrose said:

3 hours of work on a good day + 1 hour going to the trade counter + 1 hour general chat + 1 hour on the phone to new potential and old tee-ed off clients + 1 hour on social media + 1 hour making an influencer video?

We didn't have any of that anyway from any trades we used. Some long breaks, but nearly all our jobs were fixed price, those that weren't the guys worked their socks off.

 

7 minutes ago, ProDave said:

I always got the vast majority of my work through word of mouth and recommendations.  That is the lifeblood of most sole traders.  If you really have such a low opinion of them, don't recommendation, and they will soon be out of business

That's how we got all our trades except the electricians, as we had used them on other projects and never had an issue.

 

None of trades knew how to tidy up after themselves - but that's another issue.

 

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