vik2001 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 (edited) Can you lay blockwork on top of block and beam floor to create a wall partition, they will not be load bearing just on single storey with flat roof aboce. I want to subdivided the floor area into 3 separate rooms. Edited April 6 by vik2001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Punter Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 You will be OK with thermalites. You can't rest the roof joists on them though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Punter Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 You may find studwork is easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andehh Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Yes you can, we have full block walls internally throughout on block and beam. Double check with SE to be extra safe. We didn't use thermalite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vik2001 Posted April 6 Author Share Posted April 6 3 minutes ago, Andehh said: Yes you can, we have full block walls internally throughout on block and beam. Double check with SE to be extra safe. We didn't use thermalite. So u just laid the blocks straight on top of the beam up to roof level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 No Anything other than a stud wall needs a sleeper wall below 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Punter Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 I have done a feature brickwork fireplace directly off beam and block. The floor designer specified multiple beams for that section - something like 10 together. We could have done extra footings for similar cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canski Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 I wouldn't unless it was calculated at design stage. I have built non load bearing walls off double or treble beams but the loads were designed in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andehh Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 The walls...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andehh Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 (edited) The floor.... You can have blocks on a Block and beam flooring, though check with your SE. Ours ceilings are also between 3.2 and 4.2m high, though only a structural spine wall sits on the subwall/where the beams sit it. All spec'd from design stages. Edited April 6 by Andehh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andehh Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 (edited) We did have very very big beams though!!! With only a single subwall down the middle. Ground crews joked we were building a skyscraper, they hadn't seen beams as big in a house. Edited April 6 by Andehh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceverge Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 If you use hollowcore concrete planks blocks shouldn't be much of an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vik2001 Posted April 6 Author Share Posted April 6 Have a question on 1 side of the wall the builder hasn't built a inner leaf, he's using the concrete beam to act as the inner leaf to build the inner wall off. Is this OK to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Punter Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 20 minutes ago, vik2001 said: Have a question on 1 side of the wall the builder hasn't built a inner leaf, he's using the concrete beam to act as the inner leaf to build the inner wall off. Is this OK to do? If the beam is supported along its length you will be fine, if it only supported at the ends you are not at all fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canski Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 If there’s a cavity in that then the inner skin looks like it will be resting on the block. That’s a no no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vik2001 Posted April 6 Author Share Posted April 6 This will be a cavity wall and the beam.is only supported at the ends, there is nothing supporting it below. It's a single storey wall 3m in length. What should I tell the builder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andehh Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 (edited) Show him my picture above, though maybe not this thread (avoid pissing him off by showing how much you distrust his work...) and ask him why 'my' picture has the beams sitting on the inner leaf and a cavity built out from them. Ill try and get you a batter picture. Edit... That being said, I don't think it's fixable without breaking out the brick wall and laying it again further out.... If your foundations are wide enough to do so. I'm also not sure what the 'issue' is with what he did other then a smaller cavity depth cavity (work hard to keep it cleaned of mortar dropping in) Edited April 7 by Andehh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Andehh Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 (edited) For the edges I remember them laying a half brick down on the outside, then the block was supported by the beam on the inside and this half brick in the outside. Then again same done between the beams around the outside. I guess technically this means my inner cavity walls are sitting on the blocks, but these blocks are sitting on a half brick for the core of the strength. Sort of see them in this pic here. Edited April 7 by Andehh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canski Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Do you have a copy of the beam and block drawing ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Punter Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 I would arrange to meet with Building Control on site. Let them break the news to the "builder". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andehh Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 12 minutes ago, Mr Punter said: I would arrange to meet with Building Control on site. Let them break the news to the "builder". Even better idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vik2001 Posted April 7 Author Share Posted April 7 Thanks I will get BC to check at dpc /oversite stage which is when thr next inspection is due. Thr builder is calling BC as he organised them it'd a privste inspector. Is it true that pictures are sent to BC as well In Some cases or do they have to come out to site, just want to make sure builder doesn't send pics which I've heard some people say can happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Punter Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 They will sometimes just want pictures but if you request a quick visit they should agree to it. I assume they inspected the foundation trenches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vik2001 Posted April 7 Author Share Posted April 7 Yea the foundation trenches was passed by them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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