nod Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 I’ve just been informed that the grant has been increased to £7500 Which makes it vertically free if was to take out the 5k it would cost for bringing gas into the house Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonshine Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 Yes, we are having out ASHP installed (just the commissioning to go) and the installer has withdrawn our current application and going to re-apply on October 23rd for the new grant, which should mean an extra £2.5k for my dwindling budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMo Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 31 minutes ago, nod said: free if was to take out the 5k it would cost for bringing gas into the house That's only if it cost you £5k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted October 4, 2023 Author Share Posted October 4, 2023 26 minutes ago, JohnMo said: That's only if it cost you £5k. Just paid 5k for an electric connection Presume gas would be the same 5k to the pump guys for a 14 kw mits Make a change from paying extra for things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 And no ongoing monthly gas payments as well 👍. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMo Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 24 minutes ago, joe90 said: And no ongoing monthly gas payments as well 👍. I must have been lucky at £525 for my gas connection. Even though I now have an ASHP I have kept the gas, as I don't have my UVC installed yet. But looking at costs purely DHW from gas. And basically endless hot water, from a preheated combi boiler. Gas standing charge is £0.275 / day, so £100 per year. We are currently using circa 6kWh of gas per day, at £0.0685 / kWh. So £150, so all in £250. ASHP on DHW should average out a CoP of between 3 to 2.5, plus some minor cylinder losses. Cost for ASHP (6 multiplied 365), divided by 3 (CoP), and then multiplied by £0.273, is £200. If CoP is closer to 2.5 the price is around £240. All in all not much difference in cost just from a DHW perspective. Environmental perspective is different, that's why I have a HP UVC ready to install. 38 minutes ago, nod said: 14 kw mits That's a big unit for a new build? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted October 4, 2023 Author Share Posted October 4, 2023 35 minutes ago, JohnMo said: I must have been lucky at £525 for my gas connection. Even though I now have an ASHP I have kept the gas, as I don't have my UVC installed yet. But looking at costs purely DHW from gas. And basically endless hot water, from a preheated combi boiler. Gas standing charge is £0.275 / day, so £100 per year. We are currently using circa 6kWh of gas per day, at £0.0685 / kWh. So £150, so all in £250. ASHP on DHW should average out a CoP of between 3 to 2.5, plus some minor cylinder losses. Cost for ASHP (6 multiplied 365), divided by 3 (CoP), and then multiplied by £0.273, is £200. If CoP is closer to 2.5 the price is around £240. All in all not much difference in cost just from a DHW perspective. Environmental perspective is different, that's why I have a HP UVC ready to install. That's a big unit for a new build? Yes told only just big enough One quote wanted to put two units in Yes our previous build connections where cheap All under a 1000 Unfortunately we have to close a road this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotusBuild Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 On 04/10/2023 at 11:29, Moonshine said: Yes, we are having out ASHP installed @Moonshine - is this being installed in a new self build? The way I read the GOV.UK website, the grant is only issued if you are replacing a gas boiler. Am I looking at the correct web pages or is there a specific grant for new self builds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonshine Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 On 30/10/2023 at 15:52, BotusBuild said: @Moonshine - is this being installed in a new self build? The way I read the GOV.UK website, the grant is only issued if you are replacing a gas boiler. Am I looking at the correct web pages or is there a specific grant for new self builds? yes it is, its available for new buids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonshine Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 25 minutes ago, Moonshine said: yes it is, its available for new buids. https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/environmental-and-social-schemes/boiler-upgrade-scheme-bus/property-owners Quote Property eligibility The scheme is open to domestic and non-domestic properties in England and Wales. New build properties are not eligible for the scheme, with the exception of self-builds that have: been built mainly using the labour or resources of the first owner never been owned by a business or organisation my BUS voucher for £7.5k was granted this morning, and the installer is finishing up the commissioning next week, The installer i am using has said that the number of enquiries they have received since the increase has nuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonshine Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 28 minutes ago, Moonshine said: yes it is, its available for new self buids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Interesting the same grant is available for ground source heat pumps, I thought they were old hat now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billt Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 They're not old hat, just not practicable or affordable for most properties. In fact the most efficient heat pump on the OpenEnergy monitor heat pump list is a GSHP (https://heatpumpmonitor.org/system/view?id=66), although it's only been monitored for a couple of months, so the SCOP will probably get worse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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