Recessed cause a ‘ cone ‘ of light ?

[Pocster]

Recessed lights I always think of these 

 

SWMBO though has been looking at these . As the light is recessed further would they create more of a cone of light and less effective in a large room ?

 

 

[Onoff]

The beam angle will be in the spec.

[ToughButterCup]

My other half is a little photophobic: she can't stand glare.

 

The light from surface-mounted LEDs  almost always cause her slight physical pain. So all our LEDS are recessed about 30mm. There is no more a 'cone' of light with those as with surface mounts: but there is absolutely no glare. In terms of lumen output, I'm not sure if there's a difference between recessed or surface mounted lights. We worked on 5000 lumen in the kitchen and office, a good deal less elsewhere. 

[Pocster]

5 minutes ago, ToughButterCup said:

My other half is a little photophobic: she can't stand glare.

 

The light from surface-mounted LEDs  almost always cause her slight physical pain. So all our LEDS are recessed about 30mm. There is no more a 'cone' of light with those as with surface mounts: but there is absolutely no glare. In terms of lumen output, I'm not sure if there's a difference between recessed or surface mounted lights. We worked on 5000 lumen in the kitchen and office, a good deal less elsewhere. 

Yeah we have the ‘normal ‘ recessed in the bedroom ; 1st photo . Without dimming it’s so blinding it actually hurts my eyes . Can’t see what I’m doing in bed .

[Pocster]

Just noticed that those swmbo ones have some funny hold for dimming action . So no good as need to link dimming to ha . Will find something similar .

[Onoff]

1 hour ago, pocster said:

Can’t see what I’m doing in bed .

 

She has mentioned that.

[Pocster]

1 minute ago, Onoff said:

 

She has mentioned that.

Can only feel your way so much .

[saveasteading]

Some come with optional lenses for different spreads of light.

It is worth drawing the room in section and the light spread, remembering that it may spread to 100% by the floor, but create light pools on tables etc.

[Temp]

23 hours ago, ToughButterCup said:

My other half is a little photophobic: she can't stand glare.

 

Many GU10 LED bulbs and fittings come in a range of beam angles. The narrow beam bulbs (eg 28 degrees) create a "spot" effect, more shadows but less glare. The wider angle beams (90, 120+) create a more uniform light but more glare. 

 

With the old halogen bulbs the filament emits 360 degrees and the beam angle is controlled by the reflector and fitting.

 

If she really hates glare I probably wouldn't fit spots at all. Fit larger fittings with diffusers or uplighters that bounce light off the ceiling so you cant see the bulb directly.

Edited February 13, 2023 by Temp

[SteamyTea]

23 hours ago, ToughButterCup said:

My other half is a little photophobic: she can't stand glare.

Has she got cataracts?

Was the first thing I noticed.

After they put in new, shiny bright, acrylic lenses, you only need 0.25W/m² to read by.

That is about 32 lux.

 

Have I ever mentioned how painful a white background on a screen can be.

So simple to just put the gentlest if grey tint on it.

Do it once on a website, it is done forever, for everyone.

Edited February 13, 2023 by SteamyTea

[ToughButterCup]

No, she always been photophobic from early childhood.

 

Never complains about it - only reason I noticed was when, even on fairly dull days, she consistently put the glare-shield down while driving - almost always while driving south ( roughly  towards the sun ). 

 

Thanks everyone for the concern and suggestions.

The most difference for her was made by thinking about where she needs  'task' light (narrow beam, cold temperature)  and where  'fill' (warmer, wider) lighting would be better.  In each case recessed light source cuts glare for her by 100 %.

 

Happy wife, happy life.

Edited February 13, 2023 by ToughButterCup

[Pocster]

3 minutes ago, ToughButterCup said:

almost always while driving south ( roughly  towards the sun ). 

That’s a long trip 

[ToughButterCup]

2 minutes ago, pocster said:

That’s a long trip 

 

Mmmmm, but when on the same trip,  the road leads (say) North, away from any potential glare, she still leaves it down. 

I point out that doing that makes obeying traffic lights a bit more difficult. 

 

And leave it at that. Knuckles just a little whiter than usual.

[SteamyTea]

7 minutes ago, pocster said:

That’s a long trip 

Shorter during the northern hemisphere winter

[SteamyTea]

12 minutes ago, ToughButterCup said:

put the glare-shield down while driving

Mine are constantly down.

But i am a pygmy.