TerryE Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 19 hours ago, Radian said: Which is why it's worth hacking it clean out of the cloud! I have ended up tolerating Google services: the are just too good and have no direct price/cost. Don't use Echo or Alexa through or any other always-on cloud based listening service. I refuse to use any IoT cloud-based service from any of these companies. Nearly all devices have an MQTT or equivalent transport layer that I can drive locally from Home Assistant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSharp01 Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 16 minutes ago, TerryE said: I have ended up tolerating Google services Yes and this points up the classic system of systems challenge. We are all, Google included, building systems of systems with component systems over which there is little or no control. So google changes something and your system is broken and very little you can do about it other than rebuild it using another system. As we have seen reverse engineering is not an easy answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryE Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 I don't use any remote services for critical "always-on" stuff. And as for the idea of an IoT connected door lock or deep freeze -- 😱 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radian Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 6 hours ago, TerryE said: I have ended up tolerating Google services: the are just too good and have no direct price/cost. Don't use Echo or Alexa through or any other always-on cloud based listening service. Funny that, I feel exactly the opposite about those two players. I don't trust Google to maintain their services - while Echo is too-big-to-vanish and all it does for us is provide a convenient ambient UI that's totally customisable by utilising their free developer tools. I don't give a fig if it picks up the occasional snippet of conversation not intended for it. The fact that Amazon are struggling to recover their investment in developing the hardware and software stack is another reassuring indication that it's providing good value for punters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 I have Blogged my update. https://forum.buildhub.org.uk/blogs/entry/972-chart-time-hourly-temperature-decay-and-power-inputs/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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