83dons Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 (edited) I am looking to purchase a property that had some of the internal wall removed between the vestibule and lounge 5 and half years ago. I couldn't see any evidence of cracking or bowing of the walls or ceilings but quite a few of the floorboards in the lounge and above it on the first floor were squeaky. The surveyor couldn't access under carpets but said yes to structural movement in the questionnaire and noted some unevenness on the first floor landing which they think may be related to the wall being removed and structural movement. Photo below shows the lounge and where it is now open plan the vestibule wall would have extended right along to the kitchen wall originally with a door at some point: Here are some photos of the lounge: There was slight evidence of unevenness noted to the flooring to the first floor landing which may have been as a result of previous ground floor alterations the surveyors noted. They do reference a report done by consultant engineers but don't say when: We understand from our previous file notes, that the property has been inspected by XXX Consultant Engineers. They are of the opinion that the structural integrity of the property has not been affected by the alterations undertaken. It would be prudent to obtain copies of their report. I will get a copy when the sale goes through to read further but it could have been written 5 years ago and not recently. Is it worth getting a structural engineer to inspect the property prior to purchase? The work also got council planning permission and builders warrant although the builder has gone out of business is slightly worrying. I cant find the original plans for the house and not sure if this section of the vestibule wall would have been load bearing. Either way I would welcome some expert opinion on the job and if they thought it is likely to cause any problems in the future. It looks to me like a beam has been put in across the gap but not sure? I also thought the lounge to dining room may have been opened a bit but that might be the original design. Here is the build type of the house if it helps. Is the climbing pant Virginia Creeper worth worrying about from a structural point of view on the house? Edited July 25, 2022 by 83dons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMo Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 Your solicitor should be requesting all this info from the seller. The full warrant package should be available to you that includes the layout prior to modification and after. If the seller has lost them they are available from the council for a price, that the seller should provide to you the buyer free of charge. It's their obligation. Builder go bust all the time, sometimes on purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Punter Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 Get your solicitor to request a Building Regulations Completion Certificate from the seller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 The fact that they have got an engineer in to give it the "OK" screams red flag to me. Doubt it was done right and don't be surprised if there is no building control approval. An engineer couldn't say whether the alterations were OK without knowing the construction details. If the above assumption is true, and you still really want the property, I'd be taking out a defects indemnity policy and asking for a drop in the purchase price. They'll likely accept, because of the sale falls through they'll have a job selling it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adsibob Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 3 hours ago, 83dons said: I will get a copy when the sale goes through to read further Why don’t you ask for that now, prior to incurring (further) solicitors’ fees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radian Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 The photo showing the foot of the stairs shows they're flush with the wall forming the outside of the under-stairs cupboard. Not so in the plan view drawings where the bottom four steps project out. Why would that be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simplysimon Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 presuming floor drawings are from estate agent? how much wall and from where as drawings are showing what is as opposed to what was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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